Yeah, it's a bit painful because the Labour Party thinks of itself a certain way and those holding the signs buy into it.

I've seen lefty activists do this the opposite way around.....so I will say that these edited 'gotchas' can be a bit unfair as it isn't dealing with the better brains.

That said, if what that guy was saying is accurate then it's pretty spicy......What's very clear is that Corbyn never thought he'd lead the Labour party.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I was listening to a senior Jewish bloke on the radio a couple of weeks ago and he was saying that the problem isn't with the Labour Party but with it's leadership so things should improve in a couple of weeks time after Corbyn has resigned

‘...keep the Tories honest,’
Hahahaha! With Johnson in charge, hahahahaha....forever.

Re. Unlikely – yes.

Re. NGOs and corporate charities, I avoid them like the plague. I donate monthly to an independent, local homeless organisation who has been going since 1976 (the 70s, ha). Croydon Night Watch. Volunteer run. Ever since reading the book 'War Games' which I highly recommend, I've taken a dim view of any NGO, or any large corporate charity organisation. I'd rather put my money back into the area I'm in to help support the local community.

Re. Austerity, the jury is still out on whether the extreme level of cutbacks were needed. Not that none were needed, but the depth and breadth, plus those that it targeted is questionable.

As for my 'wish' – I have no wish really, in relation to this. Just pointing out that Pure Socialism being implemented in this country is near impossible. Socialism lite is probably as close as you'll get. Along with the fact that as a higher rate taxpayer I see no issue with paying more tax, within reason. And the plans floating about in my opinion are within reason. Millionaires whine about it but put it this way, you've been getting away with avoidance and tax rates that are lower than they should be for years. That can only continue for so long.

Finally, all the scaremongering around hyper tax – there is a threshold where it becomes economically damaging, a balance will always have to be struck. Labour will not cut their nose off to spite their own face, otherwise they will be out of power quick sharp. It's not a dictatorship that will last for 50 years.

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Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Just a moment on austerity...as Rudi said it had to be done but the pain should have been shared by others and in a more privileged position, correct me if I am wrong but didn't the MP's vote themselves a pay rise or two during this period. There were others for sure who should have set an example. Boris has now said that it was wrong. No Boris it was right but it was the balance that was out and you will end it. Saying something like that about the past and with it such an emotive subject to many it directly affected and comes across as simply 'words for votes' but then again he's a Politician and its a General Election. Whereas Corbyn saying that his Government would repay the WASPY £58Bn goes many stages further especially when its not in his manifesto!

Bring back Brolin

Errr...on public spending, which is what matters.....I believe the Labour manifesto was costed at £73 billion and the Tories at £2.9 billion.

And that was before McDonald's pension commitment....which was what, 58 billion extra.

So when it comes to lies that matter....it's off the scale.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)