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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 24 Sep 17 10.33pm
Originally posted by Willo Alan Pardew !!!! But in those days there weren't all these chat sites and social media etc etc however he was the target of vitriol !!! Edited by Willo (24 Sep 2017 10.29pm) I remember Willo and I agree. I'd say that Wayne is on par with AP in the vitriol stakes but he is in a much more dangerous position. And others can't cover for him like they can a midfielder. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 24 Sep 17 10.33pm

Originally posted by Willo

Alan Pardew !!!!

But in those days there weren't all these chat sites and social media etc etc however he was the target of vitriol !!!

Edited by Willo (24 Sep 2017 10.29pm)

I remember Willo and I agree. I'd say that Wayne is on par with AP in the vitriol stakes but he is in a much more dangerous position. And others can't cover for him like they can a midfielder.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 24 Sep 17 10.34pm
He made a couple of saves in a 5-0 defeat. So what. Still made a mess of two and showed characteristic lack of bottle on the back of similar against Swansea. Question marks from some against Southampton but personally don't think he could do a lot else.
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He made a couple of saves in a 5-0 defeat. So what. Still made a mess of two and showed characteristic lack of bottle on the back of similar against Swansea.

Question marks from some against Southampton but personally don't think he could do a lot else.

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johnno42000 24 Sep 17 10.34pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General Quick question. Have you ever seen a Palace player come in for this much stick? If yes, who? If no, why do you think this is? Just taking it back to basics. There seem very few who give him so much stick as yourself on this site. David Wright for one. Earlier, before the internet, there were players that got a load of stick, David Price for instance. There were many others. The internet gives a belief that a few people being anti something is actually a great deal more than actually are. It amplifies something that isn't as prevalent in the real world. I believe he is getting stick because he is replacing Speroni and everything seems to be a comparison against them two and, as Speroni was/is incredibly popular, and was very good for us Hennessey was/is on a hiding to nothing with some fans. Does he make mistakes, of course. Does he make as many mistakes when the defence is better, of course not. This would seem to be true of any keeper. Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.49pm) 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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24 Sep 17 10.34pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Quick question. Have you ever seen a Palace player come in for this much stick?

If yes, who?

If no, why do you think this is?

Just taking it back to basics.

There seem very few who give him so much stick as yourself on this site. David Wright for one. Earlier, before the internet, there were players that got a load of stick, David Price for instance. There were many others. The internet gives a belief that a few people being anti something is actually a great deal more than actually are. It amplifies something that isn't as prevalent in the real world.

I believe he is getting stick because he is replacing Speroni and everything seems to be a comparison against them two and, as Speroni was/is incredibly popular, and was very good for us Hennessey was/is on a hiding to nothing with some fans.

Does he make mistakes, of course. Does he make as many mistakes when the defence is better, of course not. This would seem to be true of any keeper.

Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.49pm)

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johnno42000 24 Sep 17 10.37pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid He made a couple of saves in a 5-0 defeat. So what. Still made a mess of two and showed characteristic lack of bottle on the back of similar against Swansea. Question marks from some against Southampton but personally don't think he could do a lot else. He made 3 very good saves. Give him credit for those or you do come out seeming very one eyed in the way you watch a match. I do think he was at fault for the headed goal and perhaps could have done better for the first. That to me is a balanced view. I should add that I'd have liked us to have a real go at getting Heaton in during the Summer as I think he is an excellent keeper. Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.43pm) 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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24 Sep 17 10.37pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

He made a couple of saves in a 5-0 defeat. So what. Still made a mess of two and showed characteristic lack of bottle on the back of similar against Swansea.

Question marks from some against Southampton but personally don't think he could do a lot else.

He made 3 very good saves. Give him credit for those or you do come out seeming very one eyed in the way you watch a match. I do think he was at fault for the headed goal and perhaps could have done better for the first. That to me is a balanced view.

I should add that I'd have liked us to have a real go at getting Heaton in during the Summer as I think he is an excellent keeper.

Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.43pm)

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 24 Sep 17 10.39pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General Have you got the link? Sure the same people on here that lambast me, will say that's budgie knows nothing about goalkeeping as well. twitter thebudgietweets I think.
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24 Sep 17 10.39pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Have you got the link? Sure the same people on here that lambast me, will say that's budgie knows nothing about goalkeeping as well.

twitter thebudgietweets I think.

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robdave2k 24 Sep 17 10.48pm
I think the main problem Hennessy has is that he isn't a "conviction keeper" I played Sunday league etc (not comparing it) but if you went in half hearted you got told about it. He always looks like he is concerned about getting hurt. 6ft 5, he should be dominating his area and his one concern shoud be stopping the ball, not if he is going to get hurt. For that first goal watch his body language and face. That and the punch just after, it's about defensive not assertive. Being compared to Speroni is unfair as Speroni was prepared to put his body on the line. Edited by robdave2k (24 Sep 2017 10.49pm)
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I think the main problem Hennessy has is that he isn't a "conviction keeper"

I played Sunday league etc (not comparing it) but if you went in half hearted you got told about it. He always looks like he is concerned about getting hurt.

6ft 5, he should be dominating his area and his one concern shoud be stopping the ball, not if he is going to get hurt. For that first goal watch his body language and face. That and the punch just after, it's about defensive not assertive.

Being compared to Speroni is unfair as Speroni was prepared to put his body on the line.

Edited by robdave2k (24 Sep 2017 10.49pm)

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johnno42000 24 Sep 17 10.51pm
Originally posted by robdave2k I think the main problem Hennessy has is that he isn't a "conviction keeper" I played Sunday league etc (not comparing it) but if you went in half hearted you got told about it. He always looks like he is concerned about getting hurt. 6ft 5, he should be dominating his area and his one concern shoud be stopping the ball, not if he is going to get hurt. For that first goal watch his body language and face. That and the punch just after, it's about defensive not assertive. Being compared to Speroni is unfair as Speroni was prepared to put his body on the line. Edited by robdave2k (24 Sep 2017 10.49pm) Then watch him against Southampton where, for their goal, he went down for the ball when the challenge from Long went in. That showed bravery. Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.52pm) 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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24 Sep 17 10.51pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

I think the main problem Hennessy has is that he isn't a "conviction keeper"

I played Sunday league etc (not comparing it) but if you went in half hearted you got told about it. He always looks like he is concerned about getting hurt.

Being compared to Speroni is unfair as Speroni was prepared to put his body on the line.

Edited by robdave2k (24 Sep 2017 10.49pm)

Then watch him against Southampton where, for their goal, he went down for the ball when the challenge from Long went in. That showed bravery.

Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.52pm)

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 24 Sep 17 10.52pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 There seem very few who give him so much stick as yourself on this site. David Wright for one. Earlier, before the internet, there were players that got a load of stick, David Price for instance. There were many others. The internet gives a belief that a few people being anti something is actually a great deal more than actually are. It amplifies something that isn't as prevalent in the real world. I believe he is getting stick because he is replacing Speroni and everything seems to be a comparison against them two and, as Speroni was/is incredibly popular, and was very good for us Hennessey was/is on a hiding to nothing with some fans. Trust me, he gets jut as much stick in real life. From everyone I sit around both home and away. I personally think it only has one thing to do with Speroni. And that is that Speroni was a much better keeper than him in his prime. You really believe that if that Wayne was an adequate replacement for Speroni that he wouldn't be an absolute Palace hero rather than the villain/laughing stock that he is? Of course he would. We would all love that to be the case, none more so than me. Unfortunately for everyone concerned he is nowehete near the level of the player that he replaced when he was in his prime. And that is just suicidal in this league. I can see this and find it nothing short of infuriating. As do quite a large number of Palace fans. The fact that he replaced a legend in goal is also a bit of a slap in the face. But it isn't the reason that he gets so much stick. Trust me, I'd welcome him into my heart like I would any Palace hero if he was a good goalie for us. But he isn't, he's a real danger to our premier league status and I have to say it how I see it. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Originally posted by johnno42000

Trust me, he gets jut as much stick in real life. From everyone I sit around both home and away.
I personally think it only has one thing to do with Speroni. And that is that Speroni was a much better keeper than him in his prime. You really believe that if that Wayne was an adequate replacement for Speroni that he wouldn't be an absolute Palace hero rather than the villain/laughing stock that he is? Of course he would. We would all love that to be the case, none more so than me. Unfortunately for everyone concerned he is nowehete near the level of the player that he replaced when he was in his prime. And that is just suicidal in this league. I can see this and find it nothing short of infuriating. As do quite a large number of Palace fans. The fact that he replaced a legend in goal is also a bit of a slap in the face. But it isn't the reason that he gets so much stick. Trust me, I'd welcome him into my heart like I would any Palace hero if he was a good goalie for us. But he isn't, he's a real danger to our premier league status and I have to say it how I see it.

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 24 Sep 17 10.55pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle coming from the person who rates warnock above pardew in terms of palace management and wants a 38 year old has been in goal in the premier league. bless your cotton socks...your just the gift that keeps on giving Again, more bulls*** from Brauny. Never said I rated Warnock better than Pards. If I did, please point me to where I said it. Although I do rate Warnock for his first spell with us and I'm grateful for him steadying the ship the second time around. I imagine most Palace fans feel the same. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

coming from the person who rates warnock above pardew in terms of palace management and wants a 38 year old has been in goal in the premier league.

bless your cotton socks...your just the gift that keeps on giving

Again, more bulls*** from Brauny. Never said I rated Warnock better than Pards. If I did, please point me to where I said it.
Although I do rate Warnock for his first spell with us and I'm grateful for him steadying the ship the second time around. I imagine most Palace fans feel the same.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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cpj Kent 24 Sep 17 10.59pm
Originally posted by the silurian and the 4th goal? My point is, if a keeper makes 10 fantastic saves then drops a bollock, like Hennessey does most weeks, we still lose, dont we? Needs upgrading but I feel we've left it too late, we will be down by the time we can (perhaps) buy a new keeper (if we can persuade one to come to a team with 0 points after 15 games that is) No he doesn't! He makes about the same number of errors as most PL keepers. If you really think our problems are down to the goalie (when we haven't scored in 10 of our last 11 games) then you are deluded.
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Kent 24 Sep 17 10.59pm

Originally posted by the silurian

and the 4th goal?
My point is, if a keeper makes 10 fantastic saves then drops a bollock, like Hennessey does most weeks, we still lose, dont we? Needs upgrading but I feel we've left it too late, we will be down by the time we can (perhaps) buy a new keeper (if we can persuade one to come to a team with 0 points after 15 games that is)

No he doesn't! He makes about the same number of errors as most PL keepers. If you really think our problems are down to the goalie (when we haven't scored in 10 of our last 11 games) then you are deluded.

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johnno42000 24 Sep 17 11.02pm
So you sit amongst others that share your view? That doesn't make it right. You really do seem to have a fixation about him which, considering we have not scored in ages, seems very weird. Do you post as much about our defence, midfield and attack or is it just a personal grievance against Hennessey? 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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24 Sep 17 11.02pm

So you sit amongst others that share your view? That doesn't make it right.

You really do seem to have a fixation about him which, considering we have not scored in ages, seems very weird. Do you post as much about our defence, midfield and attack or is it just a personal grievance against Hennessey?

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 24 Sep 17 11.02pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 He made 3 very good saves. Give him credit for those or you do come out seeming very one eyed in the way you watch a match. I do think he was at fault for the headed goal and perhaps could have done better for the first. That to me is a balanced view. Believe me, I don't give him stick at games but his performances have been way below the level required and I think he's been persevered with purely on the basis that he's younger and taller than JS. I get that some think his frame compensates and his kicking is good but almost every other aspect of his game looks dodgy. Even his handling.
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24 Sep 17 11.02pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

Believe me, I don't give him stick at games but his performances have been way below the level required and I think he's been persevered with purely on the basis that he's younger and taller than JS.

I get that some think his frame compensates and his kicking is good but almost every other aspect of his game looks dodgy. Even his handling.

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