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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 24 7.48pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Unwise to tell anyone anything if they're carrying a 4 foot sword whether they're fans of George, Pete or Kenny Burns. OK, substitute some bagpipes for the sword! Same result!
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 24 7.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Spot on! The claims about DNA being a determinant of identity is reminiscent of a time we would all prefer to forget, but mustn’t. They are a fig leaf for the xenophobia of those waving the St George’s Cross, chanting racist slogans whilst worshiping football hooligans and pretending to be patriotic. I am glad it is being called out. They mustn’t be allowed to obscure and confuse the very real challenges we face. Challenges for which they have no answers but to throw more problems into the mix. Nazis. That is all you have got left. It's feeble minded.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 24 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Ethnicity is not a scientific word. It is far too broad to mean anything. I'm not surprised you have resorted to it. It what we are talking about. Broad it is!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 24 8.47pm |
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Read the thread! There’s a lot more than that. That their spectre is even on the horizon is concern enough!
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 24 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Read the thread! There’s a lot more than that. That their spectre is even on the horizon is concern enough! That attitude has allowed us to get where we are now. We defeated the Nazis, only to allow the destruction of what we were supposedly defending.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 24 9.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It what we are talking about. Broad it is! Your broad church has allowed some very undesirable people in. They want to burn it down. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Jun 2024 9.09pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jun 24 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We defeated the Nazis, only to allow the destruction of what we were supposedly defending. Just after VE Day , i think it was General Patton. Commenting on beating the Nazis by taking sides with Stalin's Marxists. "We may have been fighting the wrong enemy (Germany) all along. But while we're here (on the Soviet border), we should go after the b******s now, 'cause we're gonna have to fight 'em eventually."
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 24 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That attitude has allowed us to get where we are now. We defeated the Nazis, only to allow the destruction of what we were supposedly defending. We only defeated the Nazis with the support of others. What were we defending? Our way of life, heritage, history and freedom of expression? Or the concept that our identity is defined by our DNA? The latter seems to me to better represent what we were fighting.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 24 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Your broad church has allowed some very undesirable people in. They want to burn it down. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Jun 2024 9.09pm) These posts get ever more confused! That our ethnicity encompasses a broad range of people who all accept the same culture has nothing to do with the way we manage our immigration policy. We can improve the way we manage the way we ensure every newcomer learns about, and accepts, our culture but not before they are here.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 24 10.35pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
i would have more respect for Orangemen in Belfast if they could find a different poster-boy than Cromwell. i mean, you wouldn't parade Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot up and down on a banner. Cromwell was an Englishman, a regicide, and a war criminal. Had the crimes of Cromwell never happened, i reckon the subsequent 400 years in Ireland would have more peaceful. And the Protestant Reformation would probably have taken hold peacefully there. Who is English ? Cromwell is probably best forgotten. From an Irish perspective yes. From an English perspective Cromwell was kind of pivotal in English history as he had the King executed...which I'm not exactly a fan of... but he also implemented important military changes. But yeah, not my favourite Englishman in history.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 24 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Just after VE Day , i think it was General Patton. Commenting on beating the Nazis by taking sides with Stalin's Marxists. "We may have been fighting the wrong enemy (Germany) all along. But while we're here (on the Soviet border), we should go after the b******s now, 'cause we're gonna have to fight 'em eventually." Yep, I came round to Patton's view. Involving ourselves in WW2 was a terrible mistake. We should have taken the Irish position. As Churchill said himself, it was the 'unnecessary war'. I recommend people read Patrick J Buchanan's book of the same name. Anyone who suggests that what that Reform spokesman said was extreme is either lying or doesn't know that this opinion was always there right from the beginning of the war, has books written on it, and has been stated many times.....the mainstream obviously always protect their narratives....for obvious reasons. However, the more I learnt about it the more my opinion changed from the traditional viewpoint I was raised with to what many in the DR now think of this war.....and indeed wars that aren't existential....which is most of them. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2024 10.43pm)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 16 Jun 24 10.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We only defeated the Nazis with the support of others. the same Nazi's that worshipped the English ? Hitler loved watching videos of a handful of Englishmen kicking ass in India. You did see the footage of Nazi's visiting England to go Foxhunting ? Their virulent Antisemitism was only counterpointed by their admiration for John Bull. Certainly in the early 1930s it seemed to be a bit of a Bromance from one bloody Empire to another. Hitler regarded the maps of the British Empire as evidence for much of his racial ideology. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Jun 2024 10.53pm)
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