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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Dec 23 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

They actually got 2 98th and 99th minute. Any chance of getting an apology from Webb? Perhaps we should ask to get game replayed, sort of thing the scousers like to do

So it balances the books a bit statistically, once the game was settled. Absolute evidence of cheating.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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1969eagle Flag manchester 09 Dec 23 9.11pm Send a Private Message to 1969eagle Add 1969eagle as a friend

I can’t think of a palace player who didn’t play well today
Lerma was magnificent
Should have had a draw at least
Against a team with much greater quality and finance
Ref and VAR nonsense soured it some
But what a wonderful entertainment
Tough set of fixtures ahead but….
Palace deserved the fantastic support they got after the shambles of Wednesday night
A pleasure to be at Selhurst Park today.

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 09 Dec 23 10.09pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by DenTyler

I read it as ‘the powers that be’ but I could be wrong

I reckon you are right. Cheers.

 

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crvenaeagle Flag 09 Dec 23 10.20pm Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Cack, hoping on penalties to get us by.
Reminds me of that season when everybody seemed to think it was going well whereas in fact Milovojevic was our top scorer because we couldn't score otherwise.

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 09 Dec 23 10.26pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Lady luck, who has played a big part up until this week has gone AWOL.
We desperately need her back or we a going to slide.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 23 8.01am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I think I saw a quote from Roy something like.

"I told the referee what I thought after the game, but I'm not going to repeat it here".

I think I can guess what he said. I hope the club complains about the Ref's performance, it won't change the result but why did Ferguson encourage his players to surround and bully the referee? For the next big decision.

There are plenty of retired Ref's who have told how they were not allowed to handle certain top 6 teams after complaints. Apparently that doesn't apply to clubs like Palace, we still get them.

Edited by Badger11 (10 Dec 2023 8.02am)

 


One more point

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Robk Flag 10 Dec 23 8.50am Send a Private Message to Robk Add Robk as a friend

Must admit it was a pretty cool Pen from Mateta....hope he gains confidence from it...

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Dec 23 9.45am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

So it balances the books a bit statistically, once the game was settled. Absolute evidence of cheating.

Couldn’t agree more. A clear sign of the cheating we could all see. Paid off, or instructed to help the big teams succeed as it suits The Premier League? Either way it is fraud

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 23 9.55am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Couldn’t agree more. A clear sign of the cheating we could all see. Paid off, or instructed to help the big teams succeed as it suits The Premier League? Either way it is fraud

I've considered that there has been a big club bias ever since the Premier League existed. I have stayed it before but the refs are not FA refs, they are Premier League refs. I wouldn't be surprised if entertainment value for overseas TV audiences is honestly considered. It's not exactly out in the open how the refs work and, frankly, Webb is just an apologist/ scapegoat for a clearly rotten system. I know you probably realise how it works Maple - this is more a post for a wider consideration.
There are now several theses that back the big club bias of refs up too - if anyone cares.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Putitout Flag Oxford 10 Dec 23 10.01am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

The biggest argument against this ref is around the fact that in 90 minutes of an equal number of fouls from either side, he only booked Palace indiscretions, 7 in total. How could that be it wasn’t a particular dirty game anyway, and Palace were not clogging Liverpool. So surely his agenda has to be in question. We all know it won’t be,

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Dec 23 10.04am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I've considered that there has been a big club bias ever since the Premier League existed. I have stayed it before but the refs are not FA refs, they are Premier League refs. I wouldn't be surprised if entertainment value for overseas TV audiences is honestly considered. It's not exactly out in the open how the refs work and, frankly, Webb is just an apologist/ scapegoat for a clearly rotten system. I know you probably realise how it works Maple - this is more a post for a wider consideration.
There are now several theses that back the big club bias of refs up too - if anyone cares.

One example

Referees have discretion over the addition of extra time at the end of the soccer game to compensate for lost time due to unusual stoppages. This study assesses if referees favor big teams by shortening close games where the big team is ahead and lengthening close games where the big team is behind. The sample comprises all 380 matches in the Spanish La Liga during the 2014–2015 season. The dependent variable was the extra time the referee decides to add to the second half. The independent variables were the score difference, opponent team’s level of play, yellow cards, red cards, player substitutions, average attendance, and fouls committed. Linear regression analysis suggested that the greater the score difference between teams, the less extra time was added by the referee. However, in close games, referees tended to add more time for a higher level team when they were behind and add less time when they were ahead. Red cards and the number of fouls committed increased the extra time.

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Dec 23 10.10am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Putitout

The biggest argument against this ref is around the fact that in 90 minutes of an equal number of fouls from either side, he only booked Palace indiscretions, 7 in total. How could that be it wasn’t a particular dirty game anyway, and Palace were not clogging Liverpool. So surely his agenda has to be in question. We all know it won’t be,

With respect, not every 'Foul' is worthy of a booking.

Away from the Liverpool game, I have heard words to the effect "There were X amount of bookings but it wasn't a dirty game". I have retorted that not every booking is a result of 'Aggressive' behaviour.

 

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