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WJK1960 07 Dec 23 8.18am | |
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Bournemouth were last season arguably one of the worst teams in the division. Gary O'Neill performed a minor miracle keeping them up. To try and prevent this happening again they have spent 137m Euros on new players according to Transfermarkt, and that excludes the fees for loan deals. In comparison we have spent 38m Euros, and the only one of those arrivals that is a regular is the free transfer Lerma.
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Eaglehamster Storrington 07 Dec 23 8.31am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
After the shambles, Hodgson says "The fact is, the fans have been spoiled here in recent times." "All our efforts, all our work, all our toughing it out to keep us in the game didn't create enough goal chances and, as a result, the fans are unhappy because they came here expecting us to blow this tiny Bournemouth team away." "I think the players' efforts in the second half were worthy of some sort of support really." "We can't force the fans to stay behind them in those moments. We can't get them to do what they are so famed for doing if they chose not to do that." So the fans are spoilt in paying an arm and a leg to watch a dire performance that Hodgson is uncritical of. He talks of the players' effort - was he watching a different game? His contempt of the fans and his hubris are appalling. Edited by georgenorman (07 Dec 2023 7.23am) Yep it's our fault. That interview has damaged him. No way back.
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southnorwoodhill 07 Dec 23 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Yep it's our fault. That interview has damaged him. No way back. He's probably still bitter for having to apologise for his comments re the youngsters. I've met people like him, they never accept responsibility when things go wrong. They're not the most reliable of sorts. Edited by southnorwoodhill (07 Dec 2023 8.41am)
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Pete53 Hassocks 07 Dec 23 8.55am | |
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Originally posted by hythemaceagle
Dear Mr Parish and Hodgson. Us paying fans have been putting up with this rubbish since we were promoted in 2013. Do you not think we deserve better in our 11th consecutive season in the Premier League? With maximum attendances of barely 11,000, why is it that Luton and Bournemouth can play attractive football on a shoestring budget, but we can’t? Enough is enough! Change is warranted and due! I very much feel the same way.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 07 Dec 23 8.58am | |
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Originally posted by WJK1960
Bournemouth were last season arguably one of the worst teams in the division. Gary O'Neill performed a minor miracle keeping them up. To try and prevent this happening again they have spent 137m Euros on new players according to Transfermarkt, and that excludes the fees for loan deals. In comparison we have spent 38m Euros, and the only one of those arrivals that is a regular is the free transfer Lerma. Looks like we're going to have to do this or we might well be going down. I couldn't muster a single positive to cling to from last night, nothing whatsoever.
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Goal Machine The Cronx 07 Dec 23 9.03am | |
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That performance was dire. Worst I can remember for a long time. I’m not yet in the ‘Roy out’ camp as I believe he has a knack of getting the best out of his players and still has the dressing room behind him. That performance was a level below the Luton and Everton games. I like to think it was a one off. What worried me was how slow Roy was to react. We were crying out for some kind of creativity in the second half and we had Franca and Ebeowi on the bench. They’re both raw but we were in a desperate nothing to lose situation. The fullback position is beyond a joke. This performance leads me to think the board will be forced to spend in Jan. We urgently need to buy a LB & RB and sign a holding midfielder on loan. We desperately need Franca to get to the player all thought we’d we signed. For me, our only positive was the performance of Lerma.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Dec 23 9.07am | |
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I opted against going to the game last night due to the train situation. First home game I've missed in years. So I saw the TV pre match interview with Steve Parish. Asked about the intent in the January window, he said he was looking at bringing in experienced players on loan. Now, although I personally don't believe we have a batch of Academy players ready for the first team, this strategy smacks of short termism and could be seen as a blocker to those players development - something that he had previously committed to. Just little or no coherent thought from the Top at the moment.
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southnorwoodhill 07 Dec 23 9.13am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I opted against going to the game last night due to the train situation. First home game I've missed in years. So I saw the TV pre match interview with Steve Parish. Asked about the intent in the January window, he said he was looking at bringing in experienced players on loan. Now, although I personally don't believe we have a batch of Academy players ready for the first team, this strategy smacks of short termism and could be seen as a blocker to those players development - something that he had previously committed to. Just little or no coherent thought from the Top at the moment. Parish is a sharp talking, short termist, snake oil salesman, BS merchant. Just my opinion naturally.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 07 Dec 23 9.19am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I opted against going to the game last night due to the train situation. First home game I've missed in years. So I saw the TV pre match interview with Steve Parish. Asked about the intent in the January window, he said he was looking at bringing in experienced players on loan. Now, although I personally don't believe we have a batch of Academy players ready for the first team, this strategy smacks of short termism and could be seen as a blocker to those players development - something that he had previously committed to. Just little or no coherent thought from the Top at the moment. Whilst that 'seems like a plan' NEILLO unfortunately we have found ourselves in a position no different from years past. We have long seen reactive, short term models lacking adherence to a longer term, effective plan - the academy, signing younger players, bringing in new managers a la FdB and PV etc. None of this has really ever felt properly thought through or executed. It almost seems the singular goal of remaining in the PL has remained in place whilst some flimsy attempts at anything else have been made. It's not particularly a criticism from me, I at the very least recognise that the ability to 'do more' is very limited. Where things are now however, I have little thought or care for academies, young prospects, new stands or anything else. We need to win some football games and look a million miles from the capability to do so. We need to change the manager and desperately need some players. If Parish is only identifying the 'loan market' that's very concerning but at the very least might be something as anything is needed.
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Putitout Oxford 07 Dec 23 9.27am | |
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In the circumstances Hodgsons comments do him no real favours. There is only ever one place where it goes wrong, and that’s within the club, reflecting on to the pitch.
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mtp1958 Oswestry 07 Dec 23 9.30am | |
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well not sure what to say about last night but here goes . we did miss Eze alot and Doucoure , the loss of Mitchel didnt help even if i think that we has not progressed from his early days , we must buy in Jan 1. to cover cheick , 2. fresh full back , and see if we can find the holy grail a striker , hopefully one who can jump , until then we must play 5 at the back 4 midfield and Olise on his own up front , hopefully when Eze returns we could at least counter attack , just looked at the latest injury list and its long again , with the run of matches coming up its damage limitation time 2 points would be a good return at the moment , Edited by mtp1958 (07 Dec 2023 9.33am)
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crvenaeagle 07 Dec 23 9.32am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Whilst that 'seems like a plan' NEILLO unfortunately we have found ourselves in a position no different from years past. We have long seen reactive, short term models lacking adherence to a longer term, effective plan - the academy, signing younger players, bringing in new managers a la FdB and PV etc. None of this has really ever felt properly thought through or executed. It almost seems the singular goal of remaining in the PL has remained in place whilst some flimsy attempts at anything else have been made. It's not particularly a criticism from me, I at the very least recognise that the ability to 'do more' is very limited. Where things are now however, I have little thought or care for academies, young prospects, new stands or anything else. We need to win some football games and look a million miles from the capability to do so. We need to change the manager and desperately need some players. If Parish is only identifying the 'loan market' that's very concerning but at the very least might be something as anything is needed. We had ample opportunity to "utilise the loan market" in summer.
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