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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Oct 23 5.48pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by The Beger

Nathan Ferguson came on as a sub in our last u21 game vs Liverpool, they (u21s) haven't played since.

Thanks for that, 63rd sub for Noah, but, as per my post, they have played a friendly since.

Edited by eagleman13 (20 Oct 2023 5.50pm)

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Plaistow Eagle Flag 20 Oct 23 5.50pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Some "weaker" teams have sent 2nd XIs to get thumped thereby resting their players for target games. This was noticeable at Old Trafford in the 90s. I think the Prem quietly clamped down on this. Not really in the sprit of the game; and 2nd place were none too keen as they were not afforded that honour by said cr@p team.

Teams don't do that anymore. However, in this case, perhaps the poster is suggesting that if the player is there or there abouts that is not enough where there are such fine margins. They need to be all the way there to play.

TBH - fed up with this “namby pamby” nonsense - these players are paid a fortune to be on the pitch and playing - when they retire none of them will have to work again..!!

So now is the time to put it in and deliver what they are so elaborately paid for…!!!

None of this - I still have a slight pain - oh OK take another few days/week off - no you get out there and play - this ain’t school it’s the Premier League..!!

We’ve all played with knocks you just live/deal with it..!!

When we won promotion with the “Team of the 80’s” - I can’t recall more than 13 players playing all season long - and we only had one Sub…!!

So what is it with modern day footballers..??

IMO - it’s just too easy - they get paid whatever..!!

Grow a pair and get out there and play..!!

Rant over..!!

COYP

 

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mtp1958 Flag Oswestry 20 Oct 23 6.47pm Send a Private Message to mtp1958 Add mtp1958 as a friend

Well we have a light at the end of the tunnel hopefully with injurys issue , but will be holding my breath until we have played 3 games ,
Nathan really have been feeling for him the kid really wants to play , Roy says he is playing for under 23s , so lets hope he gets fitter just for his own belief ,

Franca well lets all get on our knees and pray he is the next missiah for 18months then he will get brought grrrr ,

done some of my own research on injurys and it seems the tempo of the game is quicker than the players , so all clubs train them like athletes , so all the sprinting , stopping in a match is taking its toil on the human body mainly lower limbs hence all the muscle injurys ,
everybody has a different tolerance to how much there muscles can take , you cant test muscles to see how long it takes before it goes ,
I was very fit and run trained with a playing friend , 7 games into the season he done a hamstring , after that he had problems was play 5 miss 4 , he had a private physio i didnt and it took 6 years before i got injuried then things changed , So with the best wills in the worlds you never know how long your muscles will last

 

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Plaistow Eagle Flag 20 Oct 23 8.44pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by mtp1958

Well we have a light at the end of the tunnel hopefully with injurys issue , but will be holding my breath until we have played 3 games ,
Nathan really have been feeling for him the kid really wants to play , Roy says he is playing for under 23s , so lets hope he gets fitter just for his own belief ,

Franca well lets all get on our knees and pray he is the next missiah for 18months then he will get brought grrrr ,

done some of my own research on injurys and it seems the tempo of the game is quicker than the players , so all clubs train them like athletes , so all the sprinting , stopping in a match is taking its toil on the human body mainly lower limbs hence all the muscle injurys ,
everybody has a different tolerance to how much there muscles can take , you cant test muscles to see how long it takes before it goes ,
I was very fit and run trained with a playing friend , 7 games into the season he done a hamstring , after that he had problems was play 5 miss 4 , he had a private physio i didnt and it took 6 years before i got injuried then things changed , So with the best wills in the worlds you never know how long your muscles will last

Look genuine injuries are a different thing - but “just not quite there” annoys me - smacks of lack of commitment - hence my rant….!!

COYP

 

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rob1861 Flag 20 Oct 23 9.13pm Send a Private Message to rob1861 Add rob1861 as a friend

Hi Plaistow Eagle,

I'm no expert but i'm guessing with modern sport science the fitness levels required for players today vs the team of the 80s is much higher and making sure there is a duty of care is also in place to ensure that players bodies and brains are not damaged so that they can have a good retirement.

Despite the fact they all earn way too much for kicking a bag of wind around, they are human and deserve to be treated with care and decency. Also i'm pretty certain it's not in the players hands to say they are fit, but in the hands of the medical teams these days.

I could be wrong, but that's my current understanding.

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Look genuine injuries are a different thing - but “just not quite there” annoys me - smacks of lack of commitment - hence my rant….!!

COYP

 

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Plaistow Eagle Flag 21 Oct 23 11.14am Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by rob1861

Hi Plaistow Eagle,

I'm no expert but i'm guessing with modern sport science the fitness levels required for players today vs the team of the 80s is much higher and making sure there is a duty of care is also in place to ensure that players bodies and brains are not damaged so that they can have a good retirement.

Despite the fact they all earn way too much for kicking a bag of wind around, they are human and deserve to be treated with care and decency. Also i'm pretty certain it's not in the players hands to say they are fit, but in the hands of the medical teams these days.

I could be wrong, but that's my current understanding.

Get all that..!!

But surely with better and improved fitness, diets, medical and rehabilitation available - you would think the number and length of injuries would go down not up against yesteryear..!!??

Just seems to me there are more injuries now than ever - why is that..??

My theory you can almost be too fit - bit like a Formula 1 car everything stressed to the absolute limit..!!

Also don’t things like modern boots help - nothing to them in terms of protection, also pitches may be a factor - a lot are semi synthetic.

Who knows - but it all seems rather odd..!!

COYP

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 21 Oct 23 1.14pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Tomkins added to croc list.

More worrying, Olise recovery extended to 4th November, same as Eze.

 

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beak Flag croydon 25 Oct 23 2.51pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

[Link] Things are starting to improve.

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 25 Oct 23 3.16pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Get all that..!!

But surely with better and improved fitness, diets, medical and rehabilitation available - you would think the number and length of injuries would go down not up against yesteryear..!!??

Just seems to me there are more injuries now than ever - why is that..??

My theory you can almost be too fit - bit like a Formula 1 car everything stressed to the absolute limit..!!

Also don’t things like modern boots help - nothing to them in terms of protection, also pitches may be a factor - a lot are semi synthetic.

Who knows - but it all seems rather odd..!!

COYP

The reason there are more injuries now, is the pace of the game is much faster. Players are given proper care to get over injuries. In the past basically before the Premier, players with knocks, injuries etc were given steroids and opioids to mask the pain and told to play, those players now in their 50s and 60s struggle to get out of bed in the morning due to the pain.

 

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viveasheagle Flag perth 26 Oct 23 9.17am Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

I think the competition for places on the bench is going to rack up a bit now. Ebiowei looked good in the Monaco highlights and Franca was also on the score sheet. Although it is early Adaramola and Ferguson played in a competitive game, and they can hopefully start to challenge Ward and Mitchell for a spot in the first team though this may not be until next season. Ahamada also came through the game and i am sure he will be in the squad against Spurs.
Schlupp might be fit and it does not sound like Eze and Olise and going to be too far away either.
We are starting to look like we have both a decent first 11 but a youthful looking squad of players capable of challenging for positions going forward.
It was only a couple of seasons ago we had the oldest squad in the league.

 

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 26 Oct 23 11.30am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by beak

[Link] Things are starting to improve.

Looking at that list, there are a fair few that were signed in the Summer transfer window which would've been pretty disastrous if they'd come to us.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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PatrickA Flag London 26 Oct 23 1.47pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Ferguson is injured again, but Roy's unsure of the severity.
Olise, Eze, Henderson and Tomkins still out.
I assume Schlupp is fit again so think we'll revert tomorrow to the team that started the season with Hughes playing instead of Eze.

 

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