For the umpteenth time I am not a “lefty”. I am just not as far right as you. I am centre right. I voted Tory last week.

Democracy has spoken in France. It most certainly has not been “rigged”. What we have seen are people who disagree with each on some things, but disagree profoundly with a common opponent, deciding to cooperate in what they consider to be the national interest.

Then the people were asked to decide and they have. That’s truly relying on democracy. Trying to force a party that’s clearly unpopular with the majority onto them is what is anti democratic. To do so would obviously be against the will of the people because it’s only a minority view. Any arguments to the contrary is worse than spin. It’s bs.

I have no issues at all with those who argue for PR so that every voice can be heard. If the right then want to share governmental responsibility in a coalition they are going to have to compromise their positions to be able to join. That opportunity must now exist in France, but seems very unlikely to be taken up given the huge gap between the parties.

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I think you just need to look at the constant "anyone but the Tories" mantra that was being circulated, with Lib Dem and Labour candidates in our area showing you how to tactically vote to keep the Tories out.
As for Trump, that election is not until November, hence the question mark at the end of that line.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

% don’t form governments. Seats won do. National Rally and allies won 143. The newly formed alliance, the NPF won 182 and Macron’s party won 168. So the NR came third.

Only by forming a coalition with one of the other 2 groups could, and should, they participate in government. Which seems really unlikely!

In any case 37% of the vote for you means that 63% didn’t.

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And if you like right wing politics, you are now the largest single party, yet you will probably get no say going forward as Macron will have to do a deal with the extreme left instead. He called the snap election because of Le Pen's momentum in the European Elections. He can't do a deal with them as it would be the most hypocritical thing to do. He has to forge an alliance with the extreme left instead.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Macron won by using a coalition of the left, none of whom the majority actually wanted.

It will do nothing but cause more unrest.

Macron hasn’t won. His party came second to a left leaning coalition. Between them they will doubtless try to form a centre left coalition.

What the majority very clearly wanted was to keep the RN out of government. That was their priority and they achieved it.

Unrest will only come about if the right cannot accept they have been out thought and have lost.

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