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 beak  croydon 28 Jun 21 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Profumo lied to Parliament - (his wife was a film star too)! Prime Minister Harold MacMillan a very old school type resigned (fell on his sword) and was blameless except for defending Profumo who said he was innocent of any wrong doing.How times have changed!
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Palace Old Geezer  Midhurst 28 Jun 21 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I don't think that's fair on Hancock. He worked hard, made some mistakes its unknown territory, but this response is hysterical he did his best to save lives.
I agree with you steeleye. In such an unprecedented situation, with no previous, recent anyway, cases to draw from, he made a pretty good fist of trying to keep control of this horrid pandemic that's caused so much grief for so many people. Still no excuse for behaving like a sixth former behind the bike sheds. But she's not innocent in the affair. Got form if you believe what's in the press. Married three times and has a reputation as a man hunter. It won't last.
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Teddy Eagle  28 Jun 21 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by beak
Prime Minister Harold MacMillan a very old school type resigned (fell on his sword) and was blameless except for defending Profumo who said he was innocent of any wrong doing.How times have changed! And it didn’t take a Twitter storm to make him do it either.
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| DanH SW2 28 Jun 21 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And it didn’t take a Twitter storm to make him do it either. ‘Spinning’ is generous. It’s attempting to rewrite history. Again.
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| Teddy Eagle 28 Jun 21 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
‘Spinning’ is generous. It’s attempting to rewrite history. Again. If Boris could rewrite history he’d start closer to home.
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| CrazyBadger Ware 28 Jun 21 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
I lost a parent to it. Been told that everyone who lost someone should feel betrayed, be angry beyond belief etc. One of the people lecturing me on this won’t have a vaccine unless they need one to go abroad. They also refuse to wear a mask. What’s the point in being angry. I don’t envy any politician making decisions and whilst I think Hancock is an odious little oik who should have resigned straight away it’s a double edged sword. My neighbours at the start of the pandemic went out to clap and held a f***** bbq so the family could all join in. That’s moronic and likely to do far more damage. Politics is far too polarised. There needs to be proportionality. What Hancock did was moronic and showed the morals of an alley cat. To do it as Health Secretary was a special kind of idiotic but then look at the vaccine program and how he, Boris and other politicians waited in line for the vaccine - that deserved praising as a true even rollout. with no fear or favour. History will judge Hancock as a complete dick. Personally I’d rather spend my time focussing on saving lives rather than anger over death. Hancock doing what he didn’t won’t influence those who are already responsible to do anything different. Hancock just joins the other idiots who are out for themselves. How his children now feel about him will be worse than any public reaction. my faith in the woke and blame cultured world we live in has just been increased, so thank you He is just a bloke, like the rest of us, trying to do an incredible difficult job, but he had to do it under an intense media spotlight and, as it turns out, also has to watch out for backstabbing colleagues. I'm not saying that he's done nothing wrong, and he's most certainly made mistakes along the way, but the overreaction to these types of stories paint a very bad picture of society today. I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be a politician in this day and age. You never get praised for anything you do, and you're actions past and present are constantly scrutinsed for anything that can be used as a stick to beat you with, either from the media or the oafs of the opposition.
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Jun 21 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
I lost a parent to it. Been told that everyone who lost someone should feel betrayed, be angry beyond belief etc. One of the people lecturing me on this won’t have a vaccine unless they need one to go abroad. They also refuse to wear a mask. What’s the point in being angry. I don’t envy any politician making decisions and whilst I think Hancock is an odious little oik who should have resigned straight away it’s a double edged sword. My neighbours at the start of the pandemic went out to clap and held a f***** bbq so the family could all join in. That’s moronic and likely to do far more damage. Politics is far too polarised. There needs to be proportionality. What Hancock did was moronic and showed the morals of an alley cat. To do it as Health Secretary was a special kind of idiotic but then look at the vaccine program and how he, Boris and other politicians waited in line for the vaccine - that deserved praising as a true even rollout. with no fear or favour. History will judge Hancock as a complete dick. Personally I’d rather spend my time focussing on saving lives rather than anger over death. Hancock doing what he didn’t won’t influence those who are already responsible to do anything different. Hancock just joins the other idiots who are out for themselves. How his children now feel about him will be worse than any public reaction. Really sorry to hear about your loss. Refreshing to read your post. I agree the people to feel sorry for in this saga are the families.
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jeeagles  28 Jun 21 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
my faith in the woke and blame cultured world we live in has just been increased, so thank you He is just a bloke, like the rest of us, trying to do an incredible difficult job, but he had to do it under an intense media spotlight and, as it turns out, also has to watch out for backstabbing colleagues. I'm not saying that he's done nothing wrong, and he's most certainly made mistakes along the way, but the overreaction to these types of stories paint a very bad picture of society today. I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be a politician in this day and age. You never get praised for anything you do, and you're actions past and present are constantly scrutinsed for anything that can be used as a stick to beat you with, either from the media or the oafs of the opposition. In a world where we we seem to have messages about stopping online hate in all its forms at every possible turn, the woke types have been completely ruthless with their attacks on Matt Hancock. I don't say he doesn't deserve criticism. Just that it comes from people that preach on thing, and then do something completely different when it suits them. Whilst I may have been uncompromising in my opinion of some public figures, I'm quite comfortable taking flack from people with opposing views. These hypocritical lefties that are revelling in the break-up of two marriages would be the first to play a victim card if any critisism was aimed at them.
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Jun 21 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Give it a week and no one will care. Apart from the families, of course
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 28 Jun 21 3.14pm |
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To still read posts along the lines of "he did as well as he could in difficult circumstances" is so so depressing. Accountability does not exist.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jun 21 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by beak
Prime Minister Harold MacMillan a very old school type resigned (fell on his sword) and was blameless except for defending Profumo who said he was innocent of any wrong doing.How times have changed! Society was socially conservative back then. Social liberalism, has some good aspects, but as the leading culture it is a predictable gradual societal decline into degeneracy.
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| beak croydon 28 Jun 21 4.13pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And it didn’t take a Twitter storm to make him do it either. Spinning a good yarn!
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