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Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Mar 20 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

This virus appears to not have killed anyone or very minimal amounts under 10 years old.
Natural immunity or response to treatment.
Most deaths are over 60.

There won't be many left on HOL then

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Mar 20 8.00pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There won't be many left on HOL then

Yes I was a bit low with that but you get my drift.

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 06 Mar 20 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Couldn't find a thread on this. Surprising.

Apparently it isn't a question of if this reaches pandemic level but when.

It isn't whether the virus will take a firm hold in this country but when.

They are talking 60% of the population contracting the virus with the expert I heard glibly reporting a 1% fatality rate.

Back of fag packet calculation that's a figure north of 400,000 dead in this country alone.

That has to be crap, right? I don't think even Spanish flu was as virulent and destructive as that and there the death rate was partly a factor of how weak and susceptible the affected populations were after the Great War.

Nobody knows or can realise how serious this outbreak can be or become because it is a new strain of Coronavirus and subsequently has never been seen to access it's possibilities in humans before.

Every year the World Health Organization gets together to work out between them which flu bugs they need to concentrate on in order to create vaccines to inoculate everyone around the world who will suffer the most with their health conditions if they fall victim to a flu bug, this is the reason for the yearly flu jab that everyone is able to have when the time arises.

The flu injection we receive will therefore include all the very serious strains of flu that the World Health Organization has compiled together to be of much higher risk of causing serious harm to us, meaning by having this injection your chances of becoming ill and dying is approximately halved and in doing so it also reduces the huge cost of looking after sick people.
All viruses can mutate within themselves so not just flu ones, there are over 5,000 species of viruses that have been discovered so far around the world ..they all really want us gone lol.

So when people say it's just a flu bug and people die regardless anyway they are not fully understanding that the bugs actively going around and killing people are the ones deemed to be of much less harm to us ... so as we do not know or understand this new covid 19 virus coming at us now and the only understanding of it we have is from when it first appeared in China to today is the reason for the panic it has and is causing today, we simply don't know how to react to it because it is simply unknown.

Edited by Tickled pink (06 Mar 2020 8.00pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 06 Mar 20 2.45pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Nobody knows or can realise how serious this outbreak can be or become because it is a new strain of Coronavirus and subsequently has never been seen to access it's possibilities in humans before.

Every year the World Health Organization gets together to work out between them which flu bugs they need to concentrate on in order to create vaccines to inoculate everyone around the world who will suffer the most with their health conditions if they fall victim to a flu bug, this is the reason for the yearly flu jab that everyone is able to have when the time arises.

The flu injection we receive will therefore include all the very serious strains of flu that the World Health Organization has compiled together to be of much higher risk of causing serious harm to us, meaning by having this injection your chances of becoming ill and dying is approximately halved and in doing so it also reduces the huge cost of looking after sick people.
All viruses can mutate within themselves so not just flu ones, there are over 5,000 species of viruses that have been discovered so far around the world ..they all really want us gone lol.

So when people say it's just a flu bug and people die regardless anyway they are not fully understanding that the bugs actively going around and killing people are the ones deemed to be of much less harm to us ... so as we do not know or understand this new covid 19 virus coming at us now and the only understanding of it we have is from when it first appeared in China to today is the reason for the panic it has and is causing today, we simply don't know how to react to it because it is simply unknown and more because people are dying with it in quite large alarming numbers.

Partly true.

If there was a running check on global flu infections / deaths each year, there would be a similar level of hysteria, and as you put it, a similarly 'alarming' number of deaths.

The seemingly high 3.4% death rate quoted has already been caveated as it only covers people that have been tested in one country, and those people were all high risk/high level infected. The general scientific concensus is that the rate will end up between 0.5-2%.

Yes, this is several orders of magnitude higher than 'normal' flu, at 0.1% or thereabouts.

Yes, it is a new virus, yes, there should be caution as a result.

However, there is also a responsibility required from those in the media and or society not to over egg the pudding – although, they were always going to do that so moot point.

Also worth noting that as the virus becomes naturalised to the human body, its effectiveness and contagiousness should decrease (according to scientific consensus, again).

It's not ideal, but it's also not worthy of ebola levels of panic, from a health point of view anyway.

I fully understand panic from an economic POV though, especially if you have a job that will not support you if you need to take a 14-28 day layoff. And/or if you work in either the event, tourism or aerospace industries. Layoffs likely the longer this continues.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (06 Mar 2020 2.47pm)

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 06 Mar 20 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Now is the time,...to vote yourself a 3.1% pay rise plus additional benefits and perks to your staff (mostly family members)

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They snuck that under the radar well.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Mar 20 3.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Now is the time,...to vote yourself a 3.1% pay rise plus additional benefits and perks to your staff (mostly family members)

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They snuck that under the radar well.

All completely undeserved....if MPs had pay linked to productivity they would be cleaning out the local toilets.

 


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gerry theagle Flag newbury 06 Mar 20 7.41pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Just had a thought, will we be body searched going into the ground tomorrow. I know the security wear gloves but.... what if they search someone that could have the virus and have sneezed/coughed into their clothing, the virus will be transferred to their gloves and then passed on etc.
I for one won't be taking that risk however small that may at the moment.

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 06 Mar 20 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Partly true.

If there was a running check on global flu infections / deaths each year, there would be a similar level of hysteria, and as you put it, a similarly 'alarming' number of deaths.

The seemingly high 3.4% death rate quoted has already been caveated as it only covers people that have been tested in one country, and those people were all high risk/high level infected. The general scientific concensus is that the rate will end up between 0.5-2%.

Yes, this is several orders of magnitude higher than 'normal' flu, at 0.1% or thereabouts.

Yes, it is a new virus, yes, there should be caution as a result.

However, there is also a responsibility required from those in the media and or society not to over egg the pudding – although, they were always going to do that so moot point.

Also worth noting that as the virus becomes naturalised to the human body, its effectiveness and contagiousness should decrease (according to scientific consensus, again).

It's not ideal, but it's also not worthy of ebola levels of panic, from a health point of view anyway.

I fully understand panic from an economic POV though, especially if you have a job that will not support you if you need to take a 14-28 day layoff. And/or if you work in either the event, tourism or aerospace industries. Layoffs likely the longer this continues.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (06 Mar 2020 2.47pm)

Quite right and I've made the changes on my post.

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 06 Mar 20 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by gerry theagle

Just had a thought, will we be body searched going into the ground tomorrow. I know the security wear gloves but.... what if they search someone that could have the virus and have sneezed/coughed into their clothing, the virus will be transferred to their gloves and then passed on etc.
I for one won't be taking that risk however small that may at the moment.

Take some antiseptic gel with you and as you approach security hold out the gel towards them and ask politely if they would please rub this gel over their hands/gloves because of the risk you have mentioned, the only answer I can safely come up with.

Edited by Tickled pink (06 Mar 2020 9.11pm)

 

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gerry theagle Flag newbury 06 Mar 20 8.59pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Cheers Tickled, my point is that someone may have the virus without realising they are contagious and that is how the virus is going to spread. Not really a laughing matter inspite of the light hearted banter. That is why the powers that be are trying to contact people that have come into contact with confirmed cases.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Mar 20 9.04pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by gerry theagle

Just had a thought, will we be body searched going into the ground tomorrow. I know the security wear gloves but.... what if they search someone that could have the virus and have sneezed/coughed into their clothing, the virus will be transferred to their gloves and then passed on etc.
I for one won't be taking that risk however small that may at the moment.

Same as
Although my son is type 1 diabetic and I'm on methotrexate for RA so all the more reason not to tempt fate.
Low immunity can be a bit more dangerous.
Goner give it a miss until we know more I'm afraid.
But I will be giving it all my heart from a distance. COYP

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Mar 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

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Will Roy be allowed in?

 

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