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bexleydave Barnehurst 08 Jan 20 4.56pm
Originally posted by dazza So I said Tosun and have kept quite and just listened the abuse and people doubting my sources well you will see in the next week that I am right. I have said many times that I only pass on what I have been told some of it tends to be rubbish some has substance. Batsman is still on cards and very much is dependent on Zaha going to Chelsea in the Summer if not before. Walkers Peters is in talks but so are 3 other clubs so not nailed on but a possibility told we are working hard to get this done loan with option to buy however another club is offering to buy now. I’m also hearing we have held preliminary talks with 2 other clubs will try to find out more before posting as don’t want to be accused of anything. The person who questioned my ITK and Dom Fifield has not heard anything ask him now if he knows I bet he does in regards to Tosun. Which makes you no different to anyone else who posts on Transfer Talk, with the exception that most don't claim that what they post is any more than guesswork, media stories and rumours or wishful thinking. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 08 Jan 20 4.56pm

Originally posted by dazza

So I said Tosun and have kept quite and just listened the abuse and people doubting my sources well you will see in the next week that I am right.

I have said many times that I only pass on what I have been told some of it tends to be rubbish some has substance.

Batsman is still on cards and very much is dependent on Zaha going to Chelsea in the Summer if not before.

Walkers Peters is in talks but so are 3 other clubs so not nailed on but a possibility told we are working hard to get this done loan with option to buy however another club is offering to buy now.

I’m also hearing we have held preliminary talks with 2 other clubs will try to find out more before posting as don’t want to be accused of anything.

The person who questioned my ITK and Dom Fifield has not heard anything ask him now if he knows I bet he does in regards to Tosun.

Which makes you no different to anyone else who posts on Transfer Talk, with the exception that most don't claim that what they post is any more than guesswork, media stories and rumours or wishful thinking.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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mattteo 08 Jan 20 5.02pm
Originally posted by dazza I have just been told that Walker- Peters will be conformed next week on 6 month loan deal and option to buy for £15m plus add-ons. Palace have beaten 3 other clubs including Brighton & Southampton to secure the deal. Not a bad deal to be fair. Not a bad deal???? Actually, 15 million is horrenduous. I'm not gonna name 20 right backs I'd bring, but I just tell you this: frommhere, in England,there a kid called Bogle who plays as right back for Derby. He is just 19 years old and has delievered in his 100.000 monutes career (at 19 years old!) 18 crosses which were turned in goals and has also scored 11 times. He is great going forward and has lightning speed. Club representatives have said that whievwr wants him will have to caugh up 10 million. Now that to me is a big proce, but for a 19 year old like him?? Totally worth it!! Now Walker Peters. He's also a toung lad, but not 19. He's 22,turning 23 in April. So not so young anynore. Had some runs on the right side for Tottenham and a few goal crosses, but only for a team which dominated the opponents. Besides Tottenham's first team, he has been pretty poor going forward. Just 6 assists and no goals as right back in 50.000 minutes at youth level (youth level, which is below Championship level A LOT). He won't be anymore dangerous going forward rhan Ward is. And that's particularly the reason why a better player there is needed. And anyway.....for 15 million??????????? These prices for players just because they come from Top 6 teams beed to be reassesed. If he were playing in the Championship, he would't be worth 0.6 million. There will be no re-sale value for him. He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye. Best case scenarion he will be a decent right back as Ward is and Palace will keep struggling mis-table in the PL for the next 10 years. This team will never overcome its position with such transfers.
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mattteo

08 Jan 20 5.02pm

Originally posted by dazza

I have just been told that Walker- Peters will be conformed next week on 6 month loan deal and option to buy for £15m plus add-ons. Palace have beaten 3 other clubs including Brighton & Southampton to secure the deal.

Not a bad deal to be fair.

Not a bad deal???? Actually, 15 million is horrenduous.

I'm not gonna name 20 right backs I'd bring, but I just tell you this: frommhere, in England,there a kid called Bogle who plays as right back for Derby. He is just 19 years old and has delievered in his 100.000 monutes career (at 19 years old!) 18 crosses which were turned in goals and has also scored 11 times. He is great going forward and has lightning speed. Club representatives have said that whievwr wants him will have to caugh up 10 million. Now that to me is a big proce, but for a 19 year old like him?? Totally worth it!!

Now Walker Peters. He's also a toung lad, but not 19. He's 22,turning 23 in April. So not so young anynore. Had some runs on the right side for Tottenham and a few goal crosses, but only for a team which dominated the opponents. Besides Tottenham's first team, he has been pretty poor going forward. Just 6 assists and no goals as right back in 50.000 minutes at youth level (youth level, which is below Championship level A LOT). He won't be anymore dangerous going forward rhan Ward is. And that's particularly the reason why a better player there is needed.

And anyway.....for 15 million??????????? These prices for players just because they come from Top 6 teams beed to be reassesed. If he were playing in the Championship, he would't be worth 0.6 million.

There will be no re-sale value for him. He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye. Best case scenarion he will be a decent right back as Ward is and Palace will keep struggling mis-table in the PL for the next 10 years.

This team will never overcome its position with such transfers.

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mattteo 08 Jan 20 5.03pm
Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle I accept the principle of what you say but in this case the person is not a supporter he is actually an ex professional and has been coaching with both Everton and Wigan and has now retired but still scouts for Everton. Pk. Sorry, then. I thought this was some random guy fan.
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mattteo

08 Jan 20 5.03pm

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

I accept the principle of what you say but in this case the person is not a supporter he is actually an ex professional and has been coaching with both Everton and Wigan and has now retired but still scouts for Everton.

Pk. Sorry, then. I thought this was some random guy fan.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jan 20 6.53pm
Originally posted by mattteo Not a bad deal???? Actually, 15 million is horrenduous. I'm not gonna name 20 right backs I'd bring, but I just tell you this: frommhere, in England,there a kid called Bogle who plays as right back for Derby. He is just 19 years old and has delievered in his 100.000 monutes career (at 19 years old!) 18 crosses which were turned in goals and has also scored 11 times. He is great going forward and has lightning speed. Club representatives have said that whievwr wants him will have to caugh up 10 million. Now that to me is a big proce, but for a 19 year old like him?? Totally worth it!! Now Walker Peters. He's also a toung lad, but not 19. He's 22,turning 23 in April. So not so young anynore. Had some runs on the right side for Tottenham and a few goal crosses, but only for a team which dominated the opponents. Besides Tottenham's first team, he has been pretty poor going forward. Just 6 assists and no goals as right back in 50.000 minutes at youth level (youth level, which is below Championship level A LOT). He won't be anymore dangerous going forward rhan Ward is. And that's particularly the reason why a better player there is needed. And anyway.....for 15 million??????????? These prices for players just because they come from Top 6 teams beed to be reassesed. If he were playing in the Championship, he would't be worth 0.6 million. There will be no re-sale value for him. He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye. Best case scenarion he will be a decent right back as Ward is and Palace will keep struggling mis-table in the PL for the next 10 years. This team will never overcome its position with such transfers. I never formed the opinion that AWB was that impressive when going forward.At the end of the day he was a winger who never quite made it in that position and was moved to right-back.Maybe AWB will develop the attacking side of the game with more experience and in a more attack-minded team.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jan 20 6.53pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Not a bad deal???? Actually, 15 million is horrenduous.

There will be no re-sale value for him. He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye. Best case scenarion he will be a decent right back as Ward is and Palace will keep struggling mis-table in the PL for the next 10 years.

This team will never overcome its position with such transfers.

I never formed the opinion that AWB was that impressive when going forward.At the end of the day he was a winger who never quite made it in that position and was moved to right-back.Maybe AWB will develop the attacking side of the game with more experience and in a more attack-minded team.

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Skinnii Sheffield 08 Jan 20 6.57pm
Originally posted by mattteo He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye. Let's get some facts straight - AWB - 27 Games this season in a far more talented team than we have - 1 Assist In his whole senior club career 62 games - 4 assists. Let's not kid ourselves AWB was or is an assist machine. "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make some other b*stard die for theirs" - General Patton
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Skinnii

Sheffield 08 Jan 20 6.57pm

Originally posted by mattteo

He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye.

Let's get some facts straight -

AWB - 27 Games this season in a far more talented team than we have - 1 Assist

In his whole senior club career 62 games - 4 assists.

Let's not kid ourselves AWB was or is an assist machine.

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make some other b*stard die for theirs" - General Patton

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Bullhorn76 Darlington 08 Jan 20 7.13pm
Originally posted by dazza I have just been told that Walker- Peters will be conformed next week on 6 month loan deal and option to buy for £15m plus add-ons. Palace have beaten 3 other clubs including Brighton & Southampton to secure the deal. Not a bad deal to be fair. Us beating other clubs to signatures ? Surely that’s not right
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Bullhorn76

Darlington 08 Jan 20 7.13pm

Originally posted by dazza

Not a bad deal to be fair.

Us beating other clubs to signatures ? Surely that’s not right

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Helmet46 Croydon 08 Jan 20 7.28pm
Originally posted by dazza So I said Tosun and have kept quite and just listened the abuse and people doubting my sources well you will see in the next week that I am right. I have said many times that I only pass on what I have been told some of it tends to be rubbish some has substance. Batsman is still on cards and very much is dependent on Zaha going to Chelsea in the Summer if not before. Walkers Peters is in talks but so are 3 other clubs so not nailed on but a possibility told we are working hard to get this done loan with option to buy however another club is offering to buy now. I’m also hearing we have held preliminary talks with 2 other clubs will try to find out more before posting as don’t want to be accused of anything. The person who questioned my ITK and Dom Fifield has not heard anything ask him now if he knows I bet he does in regards to Tosun. Keep posting. You’ve got a pretty good hit rate on this stuff and I’d rather read about possible incomings and talks going on from people that have spoken to those on the inside. I don’t mean to sound disrespectful to others hard work but long lists of players we will never buy just leaves me cold - although I fully accept that others really enjoy reading them and I do appreciate the opinion on individual players we’re said to be linked with. That said, I don’t have to read the lists.
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Helmet46

Croydon 08 Jan 20 7.28pm

Originally posted by dazza

So I said Tosun and have kept quite and just listened the abuse and people doubting my sources well you will see in the next week that I am right.

I have said many times that I only pass on what I have been told some of it tends to be rubbish some has substance.

Batsman is still on cards and very much is dependent on Zaha going to Chelsea in the Summer if not before.

Walkers Peters is in talks but so are 3 other clubs so not nailed on but a possibility told we are working hard to get this done loan with option to buy however another club is offering to buy now.

I’m also hearing we have held preliminary talks with 2 other clubs will try to find out more before posting as don’t want to be accused of anything.

The person who questioned my ITK and Dom Fifield has not heard anything ask him now if he knows I bet he does in regards to Tosun.

Keep posting. You’ve got a pretty good hit rate on this stuff and I’d rather read about possible incomings and talks going on from people that have spoken to those on the inside.
I don’t mean to sound disrespectful to others hard work but long lists of players we will never buy just leaves me cold - although I fully accept that others really enjoy reading them and I do appreciate the opinion on individual players we’re said to be linked with.
That said, I don’t have to read the lists.

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PatrickA London 08 Jan 20 7.38pm
Tosun is aggressive with an eye for goal and is different to our other strikers in that he likes to run in behind defenders and get shots away. My main concern would be that we don’t provide great service to our strikers and I’m not sure he’s the sort to create his own chances.
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PatrickA

London 08 Jan 20 7.38pm

Tosun is aggressive with an eye for goal and is different to our other strikers in that he likes to run in behind defenders and get shots away.
My main concern would be that we don’t provide great service to our strikers and I’m not sure he’s the sort to create his own chances.

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Booted Eagle Bristol 08 Jan 20 7.48pm
Originally posted by mattteo Not a bad deal???? Actually, 15 million is horrenduous. I'm not gonna name 20 right backs I'd bring, but I just tell you this: frommhere, in England,there a kid called Bogle who plays as right back for Derby. He is just 19 years old and has delievered in his 100.000 monutes career (at 19 years old!) 18 crosses which were turned in goals and has also scored 11 times. He is great going forward and has lightning speed. Club representatives have said that whievwr wants him will have to caugh up 10 million. Now that to me is a big proce, but for a 19 year old like him?? Totally worth it!! Now Walker Peters. He's also a toung lad, but not 19. He's 22,turning 23 in April. So not so young anynore. Had some runs on the right side for Tottenham and a few goal crosses, but only for a team which dominated the opponents. Besides Tottenham's first team, he has been pretty poor going forward. Just 6 assists and no goals as right back in 50.000 minutes at youth level (youth level, which is below Championship level A LOT). He won't be anymore dangerous going forward rhan Ward is. And that's particularly the reason why a better player there is needed. And anyway.....for 15 million??????????? These prices for players just because they come from Top 6 teams beed to be reassesed. If he were playing in the Championship, he would't be worth 0.6 million. There will be no re-sale value for him. He is no AWB going forward to draw the eye. Best case scenarion he will be a decent right back as Ward is and Palace will keep struggling mis-table in the PL for the next 10 years. This team will never overcome its position with such transfers. Fair points and interesting stats which as you say seem to be completely ignored in some transfers. Tending your way on this. I'm reading a book on thinking from a Noble Prize winning psychologist and one of the central themes is that base rates from statistics are basically ignored/overlooked in thought processes which in the majority of times is a folly. Okay the levels aren't the same in this case but the stats if true are hugely out of kilter on these 2 players. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Booted Eagle

Bristol 08 Jan 20 7.48pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Not a bad deal???? Actually, 15 million is horrenduous.

This team will never overcome its position with such transfers.

Fair points and interesting stats which as you say seem to be completely ignored in some transfers. Tending your way on this. I'm reading a book on thinking from a Noble Prize winning psychologist and one of the central themes is that base rates from statistics are basically ignored/overlooked in thought processes which in the majority of times is a folly. Okay the levels aren't the same in this case but the stats if true are hugely out of kilter on these 2 players.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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Hudsoneagle 08 Jan 20 10.36pm
Is it not worth a mention that Walker-Peters won the Under 20’s World Cup for England? I don’t know much about him but his pedigree is solid and there is enough evidence to suggest he has a promising future ahead of him. He has also shown he’s capable of providing assists, wiki states he actually provided a hat trick of assists vs Bournemouth. His current Premier League record is 5 assists in 12 games. No idea where Matteo is getting Bogles goal scoring record from. He’s scored twice in 58 championship games. Edited by Hudsoneagle (08 Jan 2020 10.49pm)
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Hudsoneagle

08 Jan 20 10.36pm

Is it not worth a mention that Walker-Peters won the Under 20’s World Cup for England? I don’t know much about him but his pedigree is solid and there is enough evidence to suggest he has a promising future ahead of him.

He has also shown he’s capable of providing assists, wiki states he actually provided a hat trick of assists vs Bournemouth. His current Premier League record is 5 assists in 12 games.

No idea where Matteo is getting Bogles goal scoring record from. He’s scored twice in 58 championship games.

Edited by Hudsoneagle (08 Jan 2020 10.49pm)

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Noz North Hampshire 09 Jan 20 8.18am
I read that Man U were looking to offload Timothy F.Mensah. I thought he did well when he played for us, and is a natural right back. Wonder why we aren’t looking at him? He’s a full international for the Netherlands ...
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Noz

North Hampshire 09 Jan 20 8.18am

I read that Man U were looking to offload Timothy F.Mensah. I thought he did well when he played for us, and is a natural right back. Wonder why we aren’t looking at him? He’s a full international for the Netherlands ...

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CrazyBadger Ware 09 Jan 20 9.58am
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle Is it not worth a mention that Walker-Peters won the Under 20’s World Cup for England? I don’t know much about him but his pedigree is solid and there is enough evidence to suggest he has a promising future ahead of him. He has also shown he’s capable of providing assists, wiki states he actually provided a hat trick of assists vs Bournemouth. His current Premier League record is 5 assists in 12 games. No idea where Matteo is getting Bogles goal scoring record from. He’s scored twice in 58 championship games. Edited by Hudsoneagle (08 Jan 2020 10.49pm) FWIW, I live in a town of many Spurs Fans, all of whom are bemused that KWP isn't getting more gametime - all rate him above Aurier. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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CrazyBadger

Ware 09 Jan 20 9.58am

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

He has also shown he’s capable of providing assists, wiki states he actually provided a hat trick of assists vs Bournemouth. His current Premier League record is 5 assists in 12 games.

No idea where Matteo is getting Bogles goal scoring record from. He’s scored twice in 58 championship games.

Edited by Hudsoneagle (08 Jan 2020 10.49pm)

FWIW, I live in a town of many Spurs Fans, all of whom are bemused that KWP isn't getting more gametime - all rate him above Aurier.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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