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HeathMan Flag Purley 07 Jan 22 2.21am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Was thinking about a few lines on party hosts and hostesses, but considered the risk of a yellow or red card from HOL moderators.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jan 22 6.15am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by glazedallover

But more importantly you are a hypocritical Cnut . Loud and clear.

And thanks again. BTW I didn't report it as its not in my make up to be a grass. You got your own one there!

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 07 Jan 22 6.24am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Andy set himself up for this 'pre-trial' stuff with his own badly executed interview, in which he himself put forward 'evidence' of a visit to PizzaHut and a sweaty medical condition ...and the trump card of never even meeting the girl.

With subsequent disclosures, all his assertions were exposed as fabrications. And he's hired a really pl55-poor legal team

And I am in no doubt, however the matter is resolved, it is the British Taxpayer AGAIN, who will ultimately foot the bill for reckless behaviour of "public servants".

Asian paedophile gangs are now similarly being exposed. Too late to stop a lot of the damage done to minors, but hopefully these scum will be brought to account also.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Jan 22 8.46am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Andy set himself up for this 'pre-trial' stuff with his own badly executed interview, in which he himself put forward 'evidence' of a visit to PizzaHut and a sweaty medical condition ...and the trump card of never even meeting the girl.

With subsequent disclosures, all his assertions were exposed as fabrications. And he's hired a really pl55-poor legal team

And I am in no doubt, however the matter is resolved, it is the British Taxpayer AGAIN, who will ultimately foot the bill for reckless behaviour of "public servants".

Asian paedophile gangs are now similarly being exposed. Too late to stop a lot of the damage done to minors, but hopefully these scum will be brought to account also.

One aspect of the interview that shone out was that he didn’t seem to think he’d done anything wrong and actually tried to claim he’d done the honourable thing by sticking by Epstein despite the allegations against him. I guess that might be a bit more understandable if they had been lifelong friends but not in this case. He just came over as an incredibly privileged person who is unused to being questioned in any way - droit de seigneur personified.
Regarding the girl(s) involved it’s yet another sad case case of poor people, in this case underage, being exploited by rich men. The even sadder thing is that it is still going on all over the world.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Jan 22 9.00am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Apologies if this has been mentioned before. More “missing” evidence to go with the erased tapes of Epstein’s suicide.


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Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 07 Jan 22 9.27am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Andy set himself up for this 'pre-trial' stuff with his own badly executed interview, in which he himself put forward 'evidence' of a visit to PizzaHut and a sweaty medical condition ...and the trump card of never even meeting the girl.

With subsequent disclosures, all his assertions were exposed as fabrications. And he's hired a really pl55-poor legal team

And I am in no doubt, however the matter is resolved, it is the British Taxpayer AGAIN, who will ultimately foot the bill for reckless behaviour of "public servants".

Asian paedophile gangs are now similarly being exposed. Too late to stop a lot of the damage done to minors, but hopefully these scum will be brought to account also.

I very much doubt the British Taxpayer or the Royal Family will cough up to pay Andy's legal bills or the out of court settlement if that's where all this is leading to? He has his own assets and will be required to use them. He'll be due for a state pension so he can live on that in the future like the rest of us.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 07 Jan 22 9.58am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

I very much doubt the British Taxpayer or the Royal Family will cough up to pay Andy's legal bills or the out of court settlement if that's where all this is leading to? He has his own assets and will be required to use them. He'll be due for a state pension so he can live on that in the future like the rest of us.

Only if he's got the required National Insurance contribution history.

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 07 Jan 22 10.10am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

I very much doubt the British Taxpayer or the Royal Family will cough up to pay Andy's legal bills or the out of court settlement if that's where all this is leading to? He has his own assets and will be required to use them. He'll be due for a state pension so he can live on that in the future like the rest of us.

True, but I wonder where that originally came from? If it's from profits gained by his association with Epstein then that is irony at it's most perverse.

Edited by Slimey Toad (07 Jan 2022 10.10am)

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 07 Jan 22 10.56am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

True, but I wonder where that originally came from? If it's from profits gained by his association with Epstein then that is irony at it's most perverse.

Edited by Slimey Toad (07 Jan 2022 10.10am)

Andy's original family wealth is from the taxpayer, is what i was getting at.
Also past employment has included active service with the Royal Navy and arms deal facilitator. My guess is his stint dealing with arms "earned" him quite a few pennies.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 07 Jan 22 3.20pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

VRS has a huge 1100 followers on Facebook. Appears to have been set up as a tool to assist if she tries to reveal information she has been handsomely paid not to.

I don't have any sympathy for people traffickers etc but any process needs to follow the law. It's not about personalities. Too bad so many showed less enthusiasm in pursuing domestic offences on an industrial scale.

Again, read the story

Giuffre did not raise a case initially. There was a truly awful botched FBI case, leading to Giuffre the following year taking a civil case.

Lead police detective Joseph Recarey asserted that the state prosecutors were at first eager to pursue criminal action against Epstein, but that "everything took a turn" when lawyer Alan Dershowitz got involved.[39] Krischer then decided to take the unusual action of turning Epstein's case over to a grand jury, and then presented testimony from only one girl. Epstein's legal team aggressively sought concessions and prolonged the process when negotiating a plea deal with Alex Acosta.[40] Acosta, who described the tactics of Epstein's lawyers as a "year-long assault on the prosecution and prosecutors", eventually agreed to sign a controversial non-prosecution agreement in 2008, which was done without informing the victims,[40] later determined to be in violation of the Crime Victims' Rights Act.[41]

This lady appears to have been very brave after what appears to have been a year from hell

The traffickers and abusers deserve whatever is coming to them

Regarding UK sex rings, nobody on here said they shouldn’t be pursued with vigour. Only that anyone attempting to take the law into their own hands is likely to lead to justice not being done by perverting its course.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 07 Jan 22 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Apologies if this has been mentioned before. More “missing” evidence to go with the erased tapes of Epstein’s suicide.


[Link]

Criminals do what criminals do. So this doesn’t greatly surprise me but oh boy, someone monumentally messed up. Probably someone now quite rich…

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 22 3.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Criminals do what criminals do. So this doesn’t greatly surprise me but oh boy, someone monumentally messed up. Probably someone now quite rich…

'They took photographs of the items, but left them at the residence as they did not have the warrant to remove them.'

How stunningly incompetent is that?

You turn up without a warrant for removal....bother to use a saw to open a safe....and then leave them unsecured....I'm speechless.

Are they raiding the US equivalence of Poundland for special agents nowadays?

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2022 3.45pm)

 


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