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.TUX. Flag 20 Jul 18 7.20pm

Today James referenced a quote from Deutsche Bank re-Brexit.
Considering his LSE background, not his best moment.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 18 8.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Here's a nice reply to the Kipling poem university embarrassment.

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jul 18 8.47pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Here's a nice reply to the Kipling poem university embarrassment.

Love how the right always portray themselves to be the tough upstanding pillar of society against the weak left. There’s no evidence of one side being tougher and stronger than the other. It’s an ideaology we’re talking about here. Because one is steeped in old time thinking when things were tougher, it doesn’t make the other side weak. We all come from the same place.

Keep it up though if that’s what gives you a leg up.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (20 Jul 2018 8.47pm)

 


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.TUX. Flag 20 Jul 18 9.14pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Love how the right always portray themselves to be the tough upstanding pillar of society against the weak left. There’s no evidence of one side being tougher and stronger than the other. It’s an ideaology we’re talking about here. Because one is steeped in old time thinking when things were tougher, it doesn’t make the other side weak. We all come from the same place.

Keep it up though if that’s what gives you a leg up.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (20 Jul 2018 8.47pm)

We all end up being screwed regardless of colour. It's quite simple really.


 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jul 18 9.18pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

We all end up being screwed regardless of colour. It's quite simple really.


Yes we do. That’s why there is a generation of outlaws coming through without a thought about community and establishment. They know the cards are stacked against them and they’re not having it.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 18 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Yes we do. That’s why there is a generation of outlaws coming through without a thought about community and establishment. They know the cards are stacked against them and they’re not having it.

You have much to learn grasshopper.

 


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.TUX. Flag 20 Jul 18 10.34pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You have much to learn grasshopper.

Ditto.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 18 10.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Ditto.

Still losing money on crypto currencies Tux?


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Jul 18 7.45am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Here's a nice reply to the Kipling poem university embarrassment.

I heard a Kipling expert explain that the poem is subversive and was originally written as an anti government blast in response to a scandal of the day. Kipling was telling the "victim" to keep his chin up whilst digging the government out for his poor treatment. Of course the context and scandal has long disappeared from memory but we are left with a poem full of "truths".

As for the idiots who covered it up. Kipling was a man of his time and certainly his views on Empire don't stack up today but that is why they should study him. It is possible to love that poem and not love the politics of the poet.

An English history teacher defended the poem. He explained he was gay and had an Indian partner and that they had been given the poem by his partner's father. So before all the white middle class rush off to defend minorities maybe they might want to ask them are they offended by the poem?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Jul 18 8.47am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I heard a Kipling expert explain that the poem is subversive and was originally written as an anti government blast in response to a scandal of the day. Kipling was telling the "victim" to keep his chin up whilst digging the government out for his poor treatment. Of course the context and scandal has long disappeared from memory but we are left with a poem full of "truths".

As for the idiots who covered it up. Kipling was a man of his time and certainly his views on Empire don't stack up today but that is why they should study him. It is possible to love that poem and not love the politics of the poet.

An English history teacher defended the poem. He explained he was gay and had an Indian partner and that they had been given the poem by his partner's father. So before all the white middle class rush off to defend minorities maybe they might want to ask them are they offended by the poem?


I am suspicious why the English/British are encouraged to feel negatively about their colonial past.

In Mongolia they celebrate their empire.
In Turkey they celebrate the Ottoman empire.

Yet only in the west is there this unrealistic re-reading of history that ignores how human nature works. The UK simply did what every other developed country was trying to do.

No country has a history of peace.....History is the story of military conquests.

If there had been no British empire this country would be pretty poor with few trading links of substance. All those middle class lefty families wouldn't have the standard of living they have.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jul 2018 9.20am)

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 21 Jul 18 10.39am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I am suspicious why the English/British are encouraged to feel negatively about their colonial past.

In Mongolia they celebrate their empire.
In Turkey they celebrate the Ottoman empire.

Yet only in the west is there this unrealistic re-reading of history that ignores how human nature works. The UK simply did what every other developed country was trying to do.

No country has a history of peace.....History is the story of military conquests.

If there had been no British empire this country would be pretty poor with few trading links of substance. All those middle class lefty families wouldn't have the standard of living they have.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jul 2018 9.20am)

Because we raped, pillaged and enslaved a great portion of the world. We introduced ethnic cleansing and plantation amongst many other horrific things.
I think you’ll find that with all if that in our very recent history, it is the right thing to do to remain humble and quiet about it at least for another few hundred years, like the Turks and Mongolians have.

 


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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Because we raped, pillaged and enslaved a great portion of the world. We introduced ethnic cleansing and plantation amongst many other horrific things.
I think you’ll find that with all if that in our very recent history, it is the right thing to do to remain humble and quiet about it at least for another few hundred years, like the Turks and Mongolians have.

You are just talking nonsense as usual.

The majority of Turks and Mongolians are proud of their past empires.

You are living in a kind of fantasy land. You won't find the same kind of post modernistic revisionism dominating their cultures like we find from the left here.

Empires aren't built with kind language but lefty historical revisionism is an exercise in encouraging guilt for human nature.

I repeat again because you appeared not to take it in. Every country did the same thing......also we raped and enslaved far less than other empires actually.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jul 2018 10.51am)

 


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