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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Feb 18 12.28am
Is it too much to ask to: Have 2 strikers when the season kicks off? Have 3 keepers at any time after the manager mentions it over and over? Just 1 who is actually prem standard? Not chuck the first 3-4 games every season, which is a big stride into a relegation scrap? Actually make that upnto 7 games or maybe more. If people think this is acceptable, unavoidable or smart then think again. Anyone with any football appreciation and say with the chairman wouldn't let this kind of stuff happen, and demand it doesn't before joining or walk if it does happen. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 14 Feb 18 12.28am

Is it too much to ask to:

Have 2 strikers when the season kicks off?

Have 3 keepers at any time after the manager mentions it over and over? Just 1 who is actually prem standard?

Not chuck the first 3-4 games every season, which is a big stride into a relegation scrap? Actually make that upnto 7 games or maybe more.

If people think this is acceptable, unavoidable or smart then think again. Anyone with any football appreciation and say with the chairman wouldn't let this kind of stuff happen, and demand it doesn't before joining or walk if it does happen.

COYP

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Maine Eagle USA 14 Feb 18 1.13am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Is it too much to ask to: Have 2 strikers when the season kicks off? Have 3 keepers at any time after the manager mentions it over and over? Just 1 who is actually prem standard? Not chuck the first 3-4 games every season, which is a big stride into a relegation scrap? Actually make that upnto 7 games or maybe more. If people think this is acceptable, unavoidable or smart then think again. Anyone with any football appreciation and say with the chairman wouldn't let this kind of stuff happen, and demand it doesn't before joining or walk if it does happen. How about never making impactful signings which are desperately needed at the START of a transfer window, rather than right at the end (or not at all) thus throwing away even more points with a sub standard team during the window itself. Parish is clueless when it comes to transfers, and apparently when it comes to keeping manager's happy. Also when it comes to knowing when to fire someone. Also when it comes to hiring anyone other than a well established name that anyone could think of. He also cant seem to ever sell any of our deadwood. Hes got a nice plan for the new stadium though, so I guess its ok. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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USA 14 Feb 18 1.13am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Is it too much to ask to:

Have 2 strikers when the season kicks off?

Have 3 keepers at any time after the manager mentions it over and over? Just 1 who is actually prem standard?

Not chuck the first 3-4 games every season, which is a big stride into a relegation scrap? Actually make that upnto 7 games or maybe more.

How about never making impactful signings which are desperately needed at the START of a transfer window, rather than right at the end (or not at all) thus throwing away even more points with a sub standard team during the window itself.

Parish is clueless when it comes to transfers, and apparently when it comes to keeping manager's happy. Also when it comes to knowing when to fire someone. Also when it comes to hiring anyone other than a well established name that anyone could think of. He also cant seem to ever sell any of our deadwood.

Hes got a nice plan for the new stadium though, so I guess its ok.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Maine Eagle USA 14 Feb 18 1.20am
Originally posted by Painter Originally posted by Maine Eagle Someone who understood that in the summer window we desperately needed to bring a striker in, and had to get some business done up front at all costs. Someone who understood that in the last window, we desperately needed to bring a keeper in (even our manager said it 20 times), and had to get some business done in goal at all costs. Someone who wont take 2 weeks too long to conduct a managerial search, and then appoint a manager who is so horrendously ill-suited to our club that he may aswell have given the reins to Dame Edna. As I have said before to the 50 times people say "well what should we do then" If I dare to question Parish's position, I believe he should step back from managerial and transfer matters and concentrate on the business side. He could give those responsibilities to the best person in the club that he believes could take that on. Maybe its Freedman. Heck, I would even be happy to see Brighty have a shot at it because the guy was a player, and he understands the game. I guess Mark Bright wouldn't have let us walk out of the last window without any cover for Benteke. If no one fits the bill then bring someone in who could take a leading role in those matters. And for the love of God, give it to a football man, not someone who cut their teeth running a marketing firm.[/quote You need to accept Parish isn't going to walk away, why should he. Just because you think you can do better, isn't really going to sway him. I don't get the taking 2 weeks too long to appoint a manager, what difference did it make, de Boer wasn't the right man, I seem to remember Hodgson was appointed within a week. I never said I could do better, I am not a football person who learned the game from a young age and can draw on that experience now - but I am the same as Parish in that regard. I said someone else could do better. Taking 2 weeks too long to hire FDB further compounds how calamitous that error truly was. Just sit down and think about that, he hired an Ajax product who likes to play patient possession based football. Sounds like a perfect fit, right? My 3 year old cousin could have figured that one out. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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Maine Eagle

USA 14 Feb 18 1.20am

Originally posted by Painter

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Someone who understood that in the summer window we desperately needed to bring a striker in, and had to get some business done up front at all costs.

Someone who understood that in the last window, we desperately needed to bring a keeper in (even our manager said it 20 times), and had to get some business done in goal at all costs.

Someone who wont take 2 weeks too long to conduct a managerial search, and then appoint a manager who is so horrendously ill-suited to our club that he may aswell have given the reins to Dame Edna.

As I have said before to the 50 times people say "well what should we do then" If I dare to question Parish's position, I believe he should step back from managerial and transfer matters and concentrate on the business side.

He could give those responsibilities to the best person in the club that he believes could take that on. Maybe its Freedman. Heck, I would even be happy to see Brighty have a shot at it because the guy was a player, and he understands the game. I guess Mark Bright wouldn't have let us walk out of the last window without any cover for Benteke.

If no one fits the bill then bring someone in who could take a leading role in those matters. And for the love of God, give it to a football man, not someone who cut their teeth running a marketing firm.[/quote

You need to accept Parish isn't going to walk away, why should he. Just because you think you can do better, isn't really going to sway him.

I don't get the taking 2 weeks too long to appoint a manager, what difference did it make, de Boer wasn't the right man, I seem to remember Hodgson was appointed within a week.

I never said I could do better, I am not a football person who learned the game from a young age and can draw on that experience now - but I am the same as Parish in that regard.

I said someone else could do better.

Taking 2 weeks too long to hire FDB further compounds how calamitous that error truly was. Just sit down and think about that, he hired an Ajax product who likes to play patient possession based football. Sounds like a perfect fit, right?

My 3 year old cousin could have figured that one out.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Den1923 14 Feb 18 2.17am
Originally posted by Nobbybm That 'salary' was the only income he'd taken & it was widely reported at the time that the Americans insisted he took a salary that year - something to do with his personal expenditure in getting the deal with them done & the way the buy-in was structured. As for the whole 'taking the club forward' argument it wholly depends on what you take into consideration. If it's just footballing matters then there's a debate but if you factor in ground improvements, training ground improvements, moves to rebuild the academy, better medical facilities, sound financial base & an ambitious redevelopment plan then I think it's fair to =say we've come a long way already. Ok, it'll mean less if we did get relegated but these are the areas where the Southamptons of the world are way ahead of us & (probably) need addressing as quickly as possible. Does SP make mistakes - yes. Could we do better - possibly. Could we do much worse - definitely. CP is a business investment for SP! He is not doing this for fun as you suggest or out the goodness of his heart, as for developing the ground etc that's all great stuff but not a lot of use in the championship which thanks to SP mistakes now looks highly likely!
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14 Feb 18 2.17am

Originally posted by Nobbybm

That 'salary' was the only income he'd taken & it was widely reported at the time that the Americans insisted he took a salary that year - something to do with his personal expenditure in getting the deal with them done & the way the buy-in was structured.

As for the whole 'taking the club forward' argument it wholly depends on what you take into consideration. If it's just footballing matters then there's a debate but if you factor in ground improvements, training ground improvements, moves to rebuild the academy, better medical facilities, sound financial base & an ambitious redevelopment plan then I think it's fair to =say we've come a long way already.

Ok, it'll mean less if we did get relegated but these are the areas where the Southamptons of the world are way ahead of us & (probably) need addressing as quickly as possible.

Does SP make mistakes - yes.
Could we do better - possibly.
Could we do much worse - definitely.

CP is a business investment for SP! He is not doing this for fun as you suggest or out the goodness of his heart, as for developing the ground etc that's all great stuff but not a lot of use in the championship which thanks to SP mistakes now looks highly likely!

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Midlands Eagle 14 Feb 18 6.16am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman I'm not sure what gives you that impression. It's all over the press what happened, days later he's banging in goals and winners in the champions league, everyone knows about him, Everton have ready cash and a shortage of strikers. You barely even needed to scout him. I meant that I didn't think that we were in for Tosun in January as he was someone that Sam wanted and we went after him in August at Sam's behest but were not interested in the latter transfer period, especially as his price had shot up
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I'm not sure what gives you that impression. It's all over the press what happened, days later he's banging in goals and winners in the champions league, everyone knows about him, Everton have ready cash and a shortage of strikers. You barely even needed to scout him.

I meant that I didn't think that we were in for Tosun in January as he was someone that Sam wanted and we went after him in August at Sam's behest but were not interested in the latter transfer period, especially as his price had shot up

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Midlands Eagle 14 Feb 18 6.21am
Originally posted by Den1923 CP is a business investment for SP! He is not doing this for fun as you suggest or out the goodness of his heart, as for developing the ground etc that's all great stuff but not a lot of use in the championship which thanks to SP mistakes now looks highly likely! I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views
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14 Feb 18 6.21am

Originally posted by Den1923

I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views

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southnorwoodhill 14 Feb 18 7.26am
There's one common denominator throughout, for good or bad, and of course that is Parish himself. It would be good to see him get his transfer game in order, there's no excuse for what has happened over the past few seasons. Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Feb 2018 1.52pm)
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There's one common denominator throughout, for good or bad, and of course that is Parish himself. It would be good to see him get his transfer game in order, there's no excuse for what has happened over the past few seasons.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Feb 2018 1.52pm)

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Ali_Campbell New Addington 14 Feb 18 7.34am
Wake up...of course he is. So are most chairman in football. Hate all this Parish negativity. He is obviously trying his best but you can’t blame him for having one eye on himself. All I hear recently is how fans now want boards to change. I use arsenal and West Ham as an example and now there are a select view palace fans wanting change at the top. What’s the alternative to SP??? Best chairman we have ever had imo, that doesn’t mean he hasn’t made some terrible decisions. Hearing things like “lost the plot” etc, I think is rather harsh considering thr 7 years he has been in charge.
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New Addington 14 Feb 18 7.34am

Wake up...of course he is. So are most chairman in football. Hate all this Parish negativity. He is obviously trying his best but you can’t blame him for having one eye on himself. All I hear recently is how fans now want boards to change. I use arsenal and West Ham as an example and now there are a select view palace fans wanting change at the top. What’s the alternative to SP??? Best chairman we have ever had imo, that doesn’t mean he hasn’t made some terrible decisions.

Hearing things like “lost the plot” etc, I think is rather harsh considering thr 7 years he has been in charge.

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robdave2k 14 Feb 18 7.55am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views And Mark Goldberg was a fan. So was Simon Jordan. Of course he is a businessman, and he's put his money into it. That earns him the right to make decisions. On one hand he lets the managers manage he gets hammered because a prat like Pardew sells off players. On the other hand he then takes a lead in decisions he is interfering. Problem is our fans have been spoilt over the last few years. Very few seem to remember the two administrations. Yes he has made Mistakes but I'd take him over about every other chairman and owner out there.
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14 Feb 18 7.55am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views

And Mark Goldberg was a fan. So was Simon Jordan.

Of course he is a businessman, and he's put his money into it. That earns him the right to make decisions.

On one hand he lets the managers manage he gets hammered because a prat like Pardew sells off players. On the other hand he then takes a lead in decisions he is interfering.

Problem is our fans have been spoilt over the last few years. Very few seem to remember the two administrations. Yes he has made
Mistakes but I'd take him over about every other chairman and owner out there.

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Midlands Eagle 14 Feb 18 8.04am
Originally posted by robdave2k Of course he is a businessman, and he's put his money into it. That earns him the right to make decisions. On one hand he lets the managers manage he gets hammered because a prat like Pardew sells off players. But was it Pardew's decision to sell players as we don't know the ins and outs of who decides these things. Everyone assumes that it was the manager who sold Jedinak and Murray but we don't know that for a fact and Parish isn't averse to interfering in player matters as it was him that brought Zaha back against Pulis's wishes and although that worked well it does show that he doesn't always let the manager manage. Then there was the decision to let a bunch of players go including Fraizer Cambell without replacing him and leaving us with just one fit striker
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14 Feb 18 8.04am

Originally posted by robdave2k

Of course he is a businessman, and he's put his money into it. That earns him the right to make decisions.

On one hand he lets the managers manage he gets hammered because a prat like Pardew sells off players.

But was it Pardew's decision to sell players as we don't know the ins and outs of who decides these things. Everyone assumes that it was the manager who sold Jedinak and Murray but we don't know that for a fact and Parish isn't averse to interfering in player matters as it was him that brought Zaha back against Pulis's wishes and although that worked well it does show that he doesn't always let the manager manage. Then there was the decision to let a bunch of players go including Fraizer Cambell without replacing him and leaving us with just one fit striker

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 14 Feb 18 8.08am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views Willo is that you? The is the 21st century. The days of benevolent local owners left football when Sky turned up. Unless we are taken over by a rich Arab, Chinese or an American (that always ends well) we will always be second or third best. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 14 Feb 18 8.08am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views

Willo is that you?

The is the 21st century. The days of benevolent local owners left football when Sky turned up. Unless we are taken over by a rich Arab, Chinese or an American (that always ends well) we will always be second or third best.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER PORTIMAO 14 Feb 18 8.13am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views But arn't all chairmen/owners business men first and supporters second, i don't think it would work any other way. (not sating Parish is perfect mind)
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PORTIMAO 14 Feb 18 8.13am

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I have been saying that our chairman is a businessman first and supporter second for quite a few years and have been roundly pilloried by his acolytes for my views

But arn't all chairmen/owners business men first and supporters second, i don't think it would work any other way. (not sating Parish is perfect mind)

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