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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Apr 17 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

To be honest. Living in a Tory stronghold it doesn't matter who I vote for.

You should live somewhere more in keeping with your principles.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Apr 17 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Always enjoy the deafening silence after someone who clearly actually knows their economic stuff posts.

Dream on numpty, some of us actually had some work to do.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Apr 17 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

If's and but's eh....If we want to trade externally we will need to build the manufacturing base on which to do so. the Finance sector which we've been almost wholely reliant on for the past few decades will shrink leaving the need for us to be able to make things.

How do you build a significant manufacturing base when China and poorer parts of the world can make it cheaper?

You either have to have unique hard to copy things to sell or use protectionism.

Protectionism only has a chance of working if you essentially have the option of being self reliant.....America could do a limited form of it...though it is to be seen if it is wise.

We couldn't.

Anyone dreaming of the UK re-creating a manufacturing sector to re-balance the economy is living in cloud cuckoo land....well...there's a lot of loons living there so it might be crowded....Just take out a Labour party membership instead.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Apr 17 7.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think it is to an extent, a governments responsibility is to it citizens, and their prospects are part of that. Governments have to provide for the people they represent and their interests.

The problem is the scale of the problem at hand, especially given the increased academic level of requirement necessary for the new jobs.

Its noteworthy that even the Thatcher introduced a number of training schemes, aimed primarily at young people, such as the YTS, which did create opportunities for education and employment on apprentice schemes (I did one) but the problem was always what to do with the older workers, who were educationally unsuited to the new job markets that were springing up.

The issue I think of criticism that can be levelled at Thatcher here, is that her government did little to nothing to slow down the death of manufacturing and industry in the UK, instead opting more towards a free market approach, that left whole areas of the country in high unemployment zones.

I think that's a fair analysis.

Thatcher had the right medicine but she applied it in lethal doses......and some of her policies like selling off council houses without replacing them was tantamount to a crime against the working class.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 19 Apr 17 7.38pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


You should live somewhere more in keeping with your principles.

Caracas?

 


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whitehorselane Flag 19 Apr 17 7.41pm

Best wishes deleagle, although I don't know you personally I think I know where you stand.

Hope you pull through

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Apr 17 7.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Caracas?

Yeah, though the revolution isn't going so well nowadays....there or Gaza....not that he supports anyone dodgy of course.

Nick bleeds for justice....it's just from a very nice and Tory area where most people behave well.

People have to understand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Apr 2017 7.44pm)

 


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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 19 Apr 17 7.53pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Palace have more chance of winning the prem next season than Labour winning the election.

May will hopefully sort this country out and get on with Brexit.

I hope the far left will take a running jump. They have ruined our country with all the pc s***e

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Apr 17 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think that's a fair analysis.

Thatcher had the right medicine but she applied it in lethal doses......and some of her policies like selling off council houses without replacing them was tantamount to a crime against the working class.

I have always had a problem with the whole council house system anyway.
I believe the 'crime' is absurdly high rents being charged by landlords and restrictive mortgage terms. If you are 'working class' then you should be working. Housing should only be handed out to the desperate and genuinely incapable.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Apr 17 7.57pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Palace have more chance of winning the prem next season than Labour winning the election.

May will hopefully sort this country out and get on with Brexit.

I hope the far left will take a running jump. They have ruined our country with all the pc s***e

the far left have ruined our country with all the pc s***e?

Any examples?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Apr 17 7.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I have always had a problem with the whole council house system anyway.
I believe the 'crime' is absurdly high rents being charged by landlords and restrictive mortgage terms. If you are 'working class' then you should be working. Housing should only be handed out to the desperate and genuinely incapable.

Including those that can't afford sky high deposits and 2 or 3 months rent up front?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Apr 17 7.59pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, though the revolution isn't going so well nowadays....there or Gaza....not that he supports anyone dodgy of course.

Nick bleeds for justice....it's just from a very nice and Tory area where most people behave well.

People have to understand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Apr 2017 7.44pm)

To be fair, i have a chislehurst postcode, but am in a council house next to Mottingham.

 

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