... And as stated.., you are no more likely to be shot by police if you are black.

A twelve year old kid with a replica airsoft gun. The police shot him within two seconds of arriving on scene. Wasn't the police officers fault, the dispatcher however did neglect to mention that the witness calling the police believed the gun to be fake and that the offender was a child.

Neither officer attempted to give first aid, nor a warning to the suspect. There is some doubt as to whether the officers claims of events are genuine, as the surveillance video only backs up some of their claims. The firing officer doesn't seem to give a warning, despite his claim of having shouted three times from the car, and shoots Rice, twice within two seconds of leaving the car. The video isn't clear as to whether the kid was reaching for a gun as the officers stated.

Now I can get behind why Rice was shot, its reasonable I think if someone has a fake gun that looks like a gun, to believe them to be armed. It is however very unprofessional and rash conduct to open fire almost immediately on arrival, when its a kid.

The officer who fired was of questionable mentality to be in a position of being an armed police officer, according to his own training record.

So its not quite as clear cut as you make out.

Only if the copper was a complete f**king idiot, would he believe that someone who was sitting in a car, who just informed him that he was in possession of a legal carry permit and a fire arm, was then going to draw and shoot over a broken tail light.

He shot him five times. He probably panicked, but given that in the US there is no law against having a legal carry permit, one has to ask why police officers would panic when faced with someone whos informed them that a) they have a carry permit and b) they are in possession of a legal firearm.

That's some pretty s**t training and self control, for someone who's been professionally trained and given lethal weapons.

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Saying it over and over again does not make it true. Facts and statistics put the lie to that statement.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

So we agree, it wasn't murder?

We also agree that the Baton Rouge guy wasn't "executed" ?

They had been called to investigate a man threatening people with a gun. They believed Alton Sterling could be that man and it's entirely possible that he was. That doesn't change the fact that they had him restrained, both arms pinned, and shot him before the gun was ever removed from the guy's pocket.

Having a gun in Ohio is not a crime. At the time of the shooting, they had no idea that he was a felon and therefore not allowed to have it. Innocent until proven guilty.

Regardless, at the point of his shooting, Sterling was not a threat to the cops or anyone else.

The complaint called in about Rice was that there was a kid in the playground who had a gun...probably a toy.

You need to watch the footage of the shooting. The unit rolled right up to Rice; stopping within mere feet of the boy. The cop shot him within 3 seconds...THREE...of the wheels of his patrol car coming to a stop. What the hell was he doing pulling up so close to the boy? Why not stop a safe distance away to give himself an opportunity to assess if any threat was present (there wasn't)?

This was terrible policing by a man who had been fired by a smaller police department for - essentially - being dangerously unhinged in shooting situations. After shooting Rice, he walked around for a few minutes instead of administering any form of CPR that may have been life-saving.

Philando Castile - that was his name - told the cop that his ID was in his back pocket. The cop asked to see it, and shot Castile when he reached for it.

Having already told the cop that he was a licensed gun owner and that there was a gun in the car - as he should - the cop should have calmed down, knowing that he was dealing with a law-abiding gun owner. Remember, this was a stop for a broken headlight, that is all. Castile's actions were intended to de-escalate the situation - why was the cop's gun drawn in the first place? It was simply an impossibility to deal with this cop in his state of mind.

Edited by Ray in Houston (13 Jul 2016 6.21pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I think I have more experience than you on being the victim of racism by police. Just hate this trial by media mentality.
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