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Moose In the sewer pipe... 08 Apr 13 4.17pm
Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982. We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values. I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew... Goodness is what you do. Not who you pray to.
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Moose

In the sewer pipe... 08 Apr 13 4.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm

Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982.

We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values.

I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew...

Goodness is what you do. Not who you pray to.

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 08 Apr 13 4.19pm
Quote Moose at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982. We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values. I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew... At least he isn't nuking the left footers. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 08 Apr 13 4.19pm

Quote Moose at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm

Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982.

We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values.

I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew...

At least he isn't nuking the left footers.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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bodge 08 Apr 13 4.21pm
sorey no edccation left scool to earley
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bodge

08 Apr 13 4.21pm

sorey no edccation left scool to earley

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chris123 hove actually 08 Apr 13 4.22pm
Quote palace777 at 08 Apr 2013 3.49pm Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 2.45pm Anyone not realising the greatness of this woman must be ignorant of her legacy. if you had lived in belfast during the 70/80s your opinion might be slightly different! I worked for Dupont in Maydown in the 80's.
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chris123

hove actually 08 Apr 13 4.22pm

Quote palace777 at 08 Apr 2013 3.49pm

Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 2.45pm

Anyone not realising the greatness of this woman must be ignorant of her legacy.

if you had lived in belfast during the 70/80s your opinion might be slightly different!

I worked for Dupont in Maydown in the 80's.

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Apr 13 4.23pm
Quote Moose at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982. We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values. I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew... Not at all Moosey. I am stimulating debate and thus keeping HoL alive. Without debate, HoL is just a place for weirdos to promote the works of Bruce Springsteen, accuse others of insulting their wife on travel blogs and to discuss binge w***ing sprees from the 1980s. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Apr 13 4.23pm

Quote Moose at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm

Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982.

We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values.

I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew...

Not at all Moosey. I am stimulating debate and thus keeping HoL alive.

Without debate, HoL is just a place for weirdos to promote the works of Bruce Springsteen, accuse others of insulting their wife on travel blogs and to discuss binge w***ing sprees from the 1980s.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Apr 13 4.23pm
Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 3.06pm Quote Jordan555x at 08 Apr 2013 3.04pm Seems like all the upper class people on my facebook are writing R.I.P Iron Lady, yet all the lower class ones are happy shes dead or they just don't give a f***. Edited by Jordan555x (08 Apr 2013 3.04pm) She was a grocer's daughter. A trade that would be decimated by the policys of capital and corporate appeasement hers and successive govrnments would pursue. Back then running a grocers was a decent trade, with a good income, that qualified you as middle class. These days, you'll be lucky to make a living in the trade as an independent. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 3.06pm

Quote Jordan555x at 08 Apr 2013 3.04pm

Seems like all the upper class people on my facebook are writing R.I.P Iron Lady, yet all the lower class ones are happy shes dead or they just don't give a f***.

Edited by Jordan555x (08 Apr 2013 3.04pm)

She was a grocer's daughter.

A trade that would be decimated by the policys of capital and corporate appeasement hers and successive govrnments would pursue.

Back then running a grocers was a decent trade, with a good income, that qualified you as middle class. These days, you'll be lucky to make a living in the trade as an independent.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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salop-eagle 08 Apr 13 4.26pm
Hated her and what she stood for when in power and now I am prepared to show her the same compassion she showed to all those she screwed over! The fact that our current politicians (of whatever persuasion) still carry a whiff of her is even more reason to deplore the legacy which she so generously bestowed upon this country! I am not without sympathy for those of her friends and family who may have genuine personal reasons for grief, but don't expect me to change my opinion, just because she stopped breathing! That would be hypocrisy!
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salop-eagle

08 Apr 13 4.26pm

Hated her and what she stood for when in power and now I am prepared to show her the same compassion she showed to all those she screwed over!

The fact that our current politicians (of whatever persuasion) still carry a whiff of her is even more reason to deplore the legacy which she so generously bestowed upon this country!

I am not without sympathy for those of her friends and family who may have genuine personal reasons for grief, but don't expect me to change my opinion, just because she stopped breathing! That would be hypocrisy!

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-always-an-eagle- Hampshire 08 Apr 13 4.26pm
Margaret Thatchers death has taught me 2 things. 1. Crystal Palace fans are quite political. (take a look at all the most popular posts) & 2. John Major has a weird top lip Theres Only One Darren Pitcher
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Margaret Thatchers death has taught me 2 things.

1. Crystal Palace fans are quite political. (take a look at all the most popular posts)

2. John Major has a weird top lip

Theres Only One Darren Pitcher

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Apr 13 4.27pm
Quote pefwin at 08 Apr 2013 4.19pm Quote Moose at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982. We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values. I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew... At least he isn't nuking the left footers. If I had my way, reclaimation of the British Empire, coupled with the forced mandating of Protestant ethics upon all people's of the World, would be core British Foreign Policy. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Apr 13 4.27pm

Quote pefwin at 08 Apr 2013 4.19pm

Quote Moose at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.15pm

Her biggest mistake was not letting our Harriers and tanks march over and into Buenos Aires when she had the chance in 1982.

We could have ripped the snakes head off given the chance and established an overseas territory in Latin America, based on good Protestant values.

I'm starting to think you don't take the HOL very seriously any more, Matthew...

At least he isn't nuking the left footers.

If I had my way, reclaimation of the British Empire, coupled with the forced mandating of Protestant ethics upon all people's of the World, would be core British Foreign Policy.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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chris123 hove actually 08 Apr 13 4.28pm
Quote Kermit8 at 08 Apr 2013 3.50pm Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 3.02pm Quote Kermit8 at 08 Apr 2013 2.48pm Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 2.45pm Anyone not realising the greatness of this woman must be ignorant of her legacy. Ok tell us about her "greatness" - Help make us less ignorant This country was on it's knees in th 70's, Margaret Thatcher, did something previous govs of both hues had failed to do and that was to make Britain competitive. The EU rebate - now somewhat eroded, but redressed in part the inherent basket case that was the cap. Instrumental in bringing around the end of the cold war by getting Gorby and Ron to work and trust each other. Won a war - Falkland Islanders I'm sure will be forever grateful. Two million manufacturing jobs lost Unemployment from one million to three million inflation 10 per cent when she came into power inflation 10 per cent when she was booted out Prolonged a war - in Northern Ireland - through instansigence and collusion Closed down the most Grammar Schools (when Educ.Sec) Sold off state companies very cheaply Wasted North Sea Oil revenues in doing so Signed us up to the ERM and , thus, Black Wednesday And, of course, the Poll Tax Plenty more Far from great. She did good stuff too but the destructive stuff outweighs it imo. The sh1t we see in our society today? A lot of that had its nascence from the 80's and that Government. You're making numbers up - inflation was not 10% when she left.
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hove actually 08 Apr 13 4.28pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Apr 2013 3.50pm

Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 3.02pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Apr 2013 2.48pm

Quote chris123 at 08 Apr 2013 2.45pm

Anyone not realising the greatness of this woman must be ignorant of her legacy.

Ok tell us about her "greatness" - Help make us less ignorant

This country was on it's knees in th 70's, Margaret Thatcher, did something previous govs of both hues had failed to do and that was to make Britain competitive.

The EU rebate - now somewhat eroded, but redressed in part the inherent basket case that was the cap.

Instrumental in bringing around the end of the cold war by getting Gorby and Ron to work and trust each other.

Won a war - Falkland Islanders I'm sure will be forever grateful.

Two million manufacturing jobs lost
Unemployment from one million to three million
inflation 10 per cent when she came into power
inflation 10 per cent when she was booted out
Prolonged a war - in Northern Ireland - through instansigence and collusion
Closed down the most Grammar Schools (when Educ.Sec)
Sold off state companies very cheaply
Wasted North Sea Oil revenues in doing so
Signed us up to the ERM and , thus, Black Wednesday
And, of course, the Poll Tax

Plenty more

Far from great.

She did good stuff too but the destructive stuff outweighs it imo. The sh1t we see in our society today? A lot of that had its nascence from the 80's and that Government.

You're making numbers up - inflation was not 10% when she left.

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Kermit8 Hevon 08 Apr 13 4.29pm
Quote kennybrowns leftfoot at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm I don't think there will be another prime minister ever who divides opinion as much as she did. You only have to look at the debate on here and all over the country really that shows you that the left have to admit she got some things right. And the right have to admit that she got some things wrong. One thing I did respect her for was once she made up her mind she stuck with it, even though at times she probably knew with hindsight it was wrong. But the public expect strong leaders. This has always been the way over hundreds of years. As prime minister you are paid to make decisions, massive decisions that change peoples lives. You're never gonna keep everyone happy but I would rather someone stay true to there word rather chop and change there mind which shows weakness. My old man always voted for her. He was a copper and she was a massive supporter of the old bill, promising them a massive pay rise before she came to power and implementing the rise immediately. Although we now know that was all part of a master plan in her quest to take on the unions. She basically guarenteed the votes of every copper in England and Wales and there families and of course they went on to earn a fortune during the miners strikes. My old man was based up in Derby for that. More or less paid half his mortgage off. Not gloating just shows you the two ends of the spectrum on how she affected people. You had working class people on one side losing there jobs, homes etc and working class people on the other side making a fortune. Exactly how I and a few others saw it, kb, at the time. Fair do's for being so honest. I must add though that some of The Met seemed to feel themselves above the law - I can laugh about it now. Just - and were right proper thugs and thieves. Other areas Police put in complaints about their behaviour I heard. Not sure if that is true but they were crazy times. Thatch kinda gave the police carte blanche and the wrong 'uns didn't half enjoy themselves. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote kennybrowns leftfoot at 08 Apr 2013 4.17pm

I don't think there will be another prime minister ever who divides opinion as much as she did.

You only have to look at the debate on here and all over the country really that shows you that the left have to admit she got some things right. And the right have to admit that she got some things wrong.

One thing I did respect her for was once she made up her mind she stuck with it, even though at times she probably knew with hindsight it was wrong. But the public expect strong leaders. This has always been the way over hundreds of years. As prime minister you are paid to make decisions, massive decisions that change peoples lives. You're never gonna keep everyone happy but I would rather someone stay true to there word rather chop and change there mind which shows weakness.

My old man always voted for her. He was a copper and she was a massive supporter of the old bill, promising them a massive pay rise before she came to power and implementing the rise immediately. Although we now know that was all part of a master plan in her quest to take on the unions. She basically guarenteed the votes of every copper in England and Wales and there families and of course they went on to earn a fortune during the miners strikes. My old man was based up in Derby for that. More or less paid half his mortgage off. Not gloating just shows you the two ends of the spectrum on how she affected people. You had working class people on one side losing there jobs, homes etc and working class people on the other side making a fortune.

Exactly how I and a few others saw it, kb, at the time. Fair do's for being so honest. I must add though that some of The Met seemed to feel themselves above the law - I can laugh about it now. Just - and were right proper thugs and thieves. Other areas Police put in complaints about their behaviour I heard. Not sure if that is true but they were crazy times.

Thatch kinda gave the police carte blanche and the wrong 'uns didn't half enjoy themselves.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Stirlingsays 08 Apr 13 4.29pm
Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.23pm Not at all Moosey. I am stimulating debate and thus keeping HoL alive. Without debate, HoL is just a place for weirdos to promote the works of Bruce Springsteen, accuse others of insulting their wife on travel blogs and to discuss binge w***ing sprees from the 1980s. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2013 4.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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08 Apr 13 4.29pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Apr 2013 4.23pm

Not at all Moosey. I am stimulating debate and thus keeping HoL alive.

Without debate, HoL is just a place for weirdos to promote the works of Bruce Springsteen, accuse others of insulting their wife on travel blogs and to discuss binge w***ing sprees from the 1980s.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2013 4.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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