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ghosteagle Flag 09 Jul 14 1.03pm

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 12.56pm

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 12.05pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?


Tell you what. Copy and paste into Google a significant part of my post and see what you come up with. Please feel free to link the plagiarism.

Happy hunt.


I would imagine, that as a bored house husband with time on your hands, you can change words enough to cover your tracks.


I so wish I could swap lives with you. Park Hill, no children, commute, a meaningless job. You've got it made, sunshine.


Come on Kermit. You can do better than that.

Focus.

What's the problem with people researching info so that they can take part in the debate from an informed standpoint?

Kermit takes view on a matter due to his prejudices against those he hates, thinks he should hate, is envious of, has been rejected by or doesn't get.

He understands little of the substance before making is position felt and then runs poorly crafted Google searches to fit information around his cut and paste philosophy.

JamieIknowitall does the same but is a more elegant cut and paste merchant.


On the vast majority of subjects discussed in GT your floundering buffoonery and one-eyed ignorance is wildly entertaining. Your resorting to sniping when cornered - which is often - is very funny too.

Keep it up.

You have educated me on literally nothing these past few years but I live in hope.

Here we go again! Your self righteous crusade against 'ignorance'.

I find that hilarious as your ignorance has been exposed so many times.

And saying resorting to sniping when 'cornered' is hypocrisy of the top drawer - what we have come to expect from you - given that you haven't responded to one word in my previous post, just bore vomited a bunch of insults to add to your previous volley of insults this morning.

I will leave this now. You can't preach to the deluded.


If Hol were WW2 you would most certainly be Italy. Not once did you attempt to cover the points raised in my supposed "copy and paste" post. It wasn't, btw.

Instead, you, as usual, use the diversionary tactics of derision to attack and then flee with your tail between yer legs rather than hold your ground and argue the points lucidly and with reason.

Anyone got any ideas for other countries?


 

serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 09 Jul 14 1.36pm

An antagonistic battle between two opposing ideological forces that show no sign of budging, refuse to co operate, and instead continue to intensify the battle by dropping bombs and trading insults.

But enough on Matt and Kermit, what do people think about Israel and Palestine?

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Jul 14 1.43pm

Quote serial thriller at 09 Jul 2014 1.36pm

An antagonistic battle between two opposing ideological forces that show no sign of budging, refuse to co operate, and instead continue to intensify the battle by dropping bombs and trading insults.

But enough on Matt and Kermit, what do people think about Israel and Palestine?


That made me laugh out loud. Whilst I am in the opticians.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Jul 14 3.20pm

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 1.43pm

Quote serial thriller at 09 Jul 2014 1.36pm

An antagonistic battle between two opposing ideological forces that show no sign of budging, refuse to co operate, and instead continue to intensify the battle by dropping bombs and trading insults.

But enough on Matt and Kermit, what do people think about Israel and Palestine?


That made me laugh out loud. Whilst I am in the opticians.

Did you see Luiz Felipe Scolari there?


 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 Jul 14 4.14pm

Human Rights watch report on Israel's reaction to the killing of 3 Israeli teenagers suggests that Israel are using collective punishment...
[Link]

Also, Owen Jones on the reaction in western media...
[Link]

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 14 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Jul 14 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 14 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Jul 14 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 14 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Jul 14 10.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

And journalists never exaggerate things for their own ends? Or use photos or bits of stories from third parties without checking the authenticity of them?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 14 10.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

And journalists never exaggerate things for their own ends? Or use photos or bits of stories from third parties without checking the authenticity of them?

Did you look at the twitter timeline of the journalist?

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Jul 14 10.36pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

And journalists never exaggerate things for their own ends? Or use photos or bits of stories from third parties without checking the authenticity of them?

Did you look at the twitter timeline of the journalist?


No. I was too busy laughing at your knowledge of economics.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 14 10.39pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.36pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

And journalists never exaggerate things for their own ends? Or use photos or bits of stories from third parties without checking the authenticity of them?

Did you look at the twitter timeline of the journalist?


No. I was too busy laughing at your knowledge of economics.

So then why call it unsubstantiated bilge if you haven't even looked at it?

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Jul 14 10.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.39pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.36pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

And journalists never exaggerate things for their own ends? Or use photos or bits of stories from third parties without checking the authenticity of them?

Did you look at the twitter timeline of the journalist?


No. I was too busy laughing at your knowledge of economics.

So then why call it unsubstantiated bilge if you haven't even looked at it?


Erm, you posted the link after I said it was unsubstantiated bilge?

Are you having a meltdown tonight Gusset? First economics balls up and now this.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 14 10.53pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.39pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.36pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 10.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?

A well respected Danish journalist by all accounts, who if you read his twitter feed reports impartially.


Edited by nickgusset (10 Jul 2014 10.11pm)


That picture could be of anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.

Other than by the respected journalist who posted it. get yer head out of the sand Mr himself.

And journalists never exaggerate things for their own ends? Or use photos or bits of stories from third parties without checking the authenticity of them?

Did you look at the twitter timeline of the journalist?


No. I was too busy laughing at your knowledge of economics.

So then why call it unsubstantiated bilge if you haven't even looked at it?


Erm, you posted the link after I said it was unsubstantiated bilge?

Are you having a meltdown tonight Gusset? First economics balls up and now this.

The bit in red shows you called it unsubstantiated even after I explained where it was from.

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 10 Jul 14 11.09pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?


One of the more obvious figures there is wearing the Jewish fringed shawl.

You need to go back to the opticians.

Edited by Kermit8 (10 Jul 2014 11.10pm)

 


Big chest and massive boobs

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moylerg Flag Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 11 Jul 14 12.10am

....if course,there will not be a retraction in sight... From Mr Matt Up Himself I mean. It is quite adult to show humility, or so I thought. Don't see much for the protagonist on this thread.

 


Most certainly not European.

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jul 14 6.24am

Quote moylerg at 11 Jul 2014 12.10am

....if course,there will not be a retraction in sight... From Mr Matt Up Himself I mean. It is quite adult to show humility, or so I thought. Don't see much for the protagonist on this thread.


What's this got to do with you sweetheart?

The fact is that a Russia Today journalist, yes that credible organ Russia Today whose mission is to undermine the US and its allies, prints a picture of what could be anything.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jul 14 6.26am

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Jul 2014 11.09pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Jul 2014 10.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Jul 2014 9.51pm

A sad state of affairs...


Of the people you can make out in that photo, a lot look Arab.

Why do you continue to put this unsubstantiated bilge on here?


One of the more obvious figures there is wearing the Jewish fringed shawl.

You need to go back to the opticians.

Edited by Kermit8 (10 Jul 2014 11.10pm)


So, can tell for sure that it is a bunch of Israelis laughing at Gaxa from that picture?

How can you tell that? To me, it could be a picture of many things.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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