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  Hrolf The Ganger  02 Feb 19 10.27am |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Whereas you wish to ignore the high levels of crime in the 18th and 19th Century because it was a long time ago and nobody was counting them? How do you know they were high? There are little or no reliable stats and you weren't alive. What I believe in is what I observe. If stats back that up, all the better. Why do you think that historical whatabouterey is helpful anyway? It's almost like you want to deny the last 60 years of ever increasing immigrant crime wave at any cost.
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Pussay Patrol  02 Feb 19 10.49am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I agree but they are a bit like our very own Pussay and blame Brexit for everything You can arguably blame most negative economic news on Brexit, now we have created that cloud of uncertainty in our economy, markets and investors react. Like patisserie Valerie, not caused by Brexit but a company carrying Alot debt, that uncertainty is enough to tip the scales
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| Rubin 02 Feb 19 10.50am |
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| davenotamonkey 02 Feb 19 11.28am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I agree but they are a bit like our very own Pussay and blame Brexit for everything You know the phrase "take out the trash day"? This is exactly what a huge number of companies are doing (and have done) - Brexit is an immensely useful hook to hang their problems on. s*** business model? China slowing and not buying your goods any more? EUrozone stagnating? Supermarkets outpricing you on the costs of importing wine? Let's blame Brexit! The useful idiots on here dutifully and gleefully regurgitate it, as they think it proves their point. Note they never present the other side of the ledger - companies that have relocated here, invested here, and produce jobs here. It's almost like they are trying to paint a narrative by not presenting both sides of the story.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Feb 19 11.38am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
You know the phrase "take out the trash day"? This is exactly what a huge number of companies are doing (and have done) - Brexit is an immensely useful hook to hang their problems on. s*** business model? China slowing and not buying your goods any more? EUrozone stagnating? Supermarkets outpricing you on the costs of importing wine? Let's blame Brexit! The useful idiots on here dutifully and gleefully regurgitate it, as they think it proves their point. Note they never present the other side of the ledger - companies that have relocated here, invested here, and produce jobs here. It's almost like they are trying to paint a narrative by not presenting both sides of the story. Good post I don't understand why some people think we should believe company directors just because they blame Brexit. Yet those same directors probably complained when the minimum wage was introduced. We should all keep a healthy scepticism regardless if we are Brexit or Remain.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Feb 19 11.42am |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Whereas you wish to ignore the high levels of crime in the 18th and 19th Century because it was a long time ago and nobody was counting them? You are comparing today with a time that...and this is a massive point didn't have a welfare state....didn't have technology which assisted poorer people, didn't have healthcare, didn't have an education which helped them find employment, a time where the age expectancy for the poor was way way lower. You are talking of times where a person who turned to crime would...in some cases....be out of necessity to live. If you could talk about these comparisons and factor these points in.....yeah, these societies were more ordered and they were certainly more socially cohesive.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Feb 19 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Good post I don't understand why some people think we should believe company directors just because they blame Brexit. Yet those same directors probably complained when the minimum wage was introduced. We should all keep a healthy scepticism regardless if we are Brexit or Remain.
The 'when it doesn't affect me' I'm a socialist....but when it affects me....suddenly I'm a centralist. It's endemic on the left.......If Corbyn comes to power and we get real socialism.....We will see a hell of a lot of his support base turn from cheer leaders to suddenly critics who will hide the fact that they ever supported him....or somehow claim that they couldn't see it coming. It's not about a real integrity with some ....it's more important that your political tribe think you have real integrity. When it costs them they will just leave the tribe and pretend with a different one.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 02 Feb 19 1.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You are comparing today with a time that...and this is a massive point didn't have a welfare state....didn't have technology which assisted poorer people, didn't have healthcare, didn't have an education which helped them find employment, a time where the age expectancy for the poor was way way lower. You are talking of times where a person who turned to crime would...in some cases....be out of necessity to live. If you could talk about these comparisons and factor these points in.....yeah, these societies were more ordered and they were certainly more socially cohesive. I think he will be very reassured that no gladiators died in the games last year.
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| Pussay Patrol 02 Feb 19 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Good post I don't understand why some people think we should believe company directors just because they blame Brexit. Yet those same directors probably complained when the minimum wage was introduced. We should all keep a healthy scepticism regardless if we are Brexit or Remain. Bit of a silly comparison, paying your staff a bare minimum by law is a no brainer. Their concerns over the impact of brexit are obvious and logical, such as supply chain issues and disruption to business. The fact so many companies are stockpiling shows they are completely serious and not just scaremongering
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| steeleye20 Croydon 02 Feb 19 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Bit of a silly comparison, paying your staff a bare minimum by law is a no brainer. Their concerns over the impact of brexit are obvious and logical, such as supply chain issues and disruption to business. The fact so many companies are stockpiling shows they are completely serious and not just scaremongering Access to the EU and single market is simply a no-brainer and only a nation contemplating economic suicide would contemplate losing that.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Feb 19 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Access to the EU and single market is simply a no-brainer and only a nation contemplating economic suicide would contemplate losing that.
Whatever happens over Brexit there will still be trade with the EU. So that line of argument is just scare mongering. All that is being argued is how much and on how that trade is conducted. I'll leave this image here for the reality of the imbalance between the UK and EU. The brighter amongst us will be able to look at that chart and work out what is likely to happen.
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
You can arguably blame most negative economic news on Brexit, now we have created that cloud of uncertainty in our economy, markets and investors react. Like patisserie Valerie, not caused by Brexit but a company carrying Alot debt, that uncertainty is enough to tip the scales 1. Only the economically naive would do that.
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