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cryrst The garden of England 11 Aug 24 6.17pm | |
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 24 6.59pm | |
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The Police continue to harass people for non violent anti abortion beliefs they don't like. However, when massive crowds march for beliefs they hold, for example the pro Palestinian marches, where many beliefs that the state doesn't approve of were shouted out.....they aren't arrested for it. The current state of Britain.....pick on the ones who won't cause you problems. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2024 6.59pm)
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 24 7.00pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
As it is the funeral today at 2 o’clock of one of the victims of the Southport atrocity, Alice de Silva Aguiar, perhaps we should pause the ‘you are a far-right fascist’ and you are a far-left communist’ for an hour in respect for Alice and her family. Well said.
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 24 7.04pm | |
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Anyone know what the situation is with this guy who has been shot by armed Police in Surrey?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 7.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You should read the material you reference first. It’s even in bold for you and roughly what I originally said. ‘Only one in three Britons support the recent protests, with the riots receiving overwhelming opposition’ Only one in three. ONLY. ONLY one in 3 disagrees with mass or uncontrolled immigration. Only 1 in 3. Not that many. Of course I read it. I think you need to also read what you wrote. What you actually claimed was:- “I think it’s something like 40 odd percent agree with the grievances of protesters and 30% think they should be happening.” Which is nothing remotely like what the survey found. Their headline in bold says:- “Few Britons support the disorder, with the vast majority saying it is unjustified and that the views of the rioters are not representative of the wider population” Then goes on to say the quote you reference, which does NOT mean what you suggest it does, and then:- “Just one in eight Britons say the riots were justified” Pretty obviously not that 30% agree they should be happening. It also says:- “Although six in ten Britons have sympathies with the peaceful protests, just 8% sympathise with rioters” We have not witnessed peaceful protests! We have witnessed riots!
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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Aug 24 7.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Police continue to harass people for non violent anti abortion beliefs they don't like. However, when massive crowds march for beliefs they hold, for example the pro Palestinian marches, where many beliefs that the state doesn't approve of were shouted out.....they aren't arrested for it. The current state of Britain.....pick on the ones who won't cause you problems. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2024 6.59pm) What about commiting "gross indecency"....but it's all OK cos it's standing on top of a vehicle at a pride parade ? Shameful behaviour....now done with pride. You do the same at your local supermarket and you will get arrested.
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 24 7.28pm | |
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It's a lie to say there haven't been peaceful protests. Yes there has, most of the people who turned up were not violent. Just because some media obsessives parrot what they read and hear doesn't mean they speak the truth. Let it not for forgotten that the media coverage of these protests/riots has been extremely negative towards anyone who came out....let us not forget that a judge recently stated that even casual observers should be arrested. So to have a 1 in 3 people express support for protests against the state of Britain is significant within a largely pro immigration media culture....and I'd also add that immigration tops the polls on voter concerns. In my view roughly 25 percent of the people within the country will have migrant heritage of some kind so this is a significant viewpoint within the population.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 7.32pm | |
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She now has the opportunity to challenge that notice. She wasn’t arrested or removed. The was no harassment at all. It was polite enquiry by a policeman doing his job of ensuring an exclusion zone is respected and that others in the area are not subjected to pressure or harassment themselves. Only an anti abortionist would see this as a problem. Which has no connection at all to either the events in Southport or the riots. So why it has found its way into here is a mystery.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 7.55pm | |
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I very much doubt if any of the events last week attracted many who went to peacefully protest, given the way they were first promoted and then reported. Peaceful protesters knowing that rioting has happened elsewhere don’t attend something which has the same purpose. Trying to portray recent events as peaceful protesters being misunderstood and misreported by the media is to take excuse making to new heights. These were disgraceful events carried out by yobs and bone heads having been fermented by far right influencers on social media. It’s their poison which now needs to be drawn and neutralised. That’s where we should expect action. With all the “freedom of speech” bs quickly following. We know people have concerns about immigration. Mostly about illegal immigration and the housing of asylum seekers. The same people know we cannot do without legal, managed, migration, at least for the moment.
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georgenorman 11 Aug 24 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When a well known anti abortionist deliberately stands where an exclusion order is in place it is perfectly reasonable for a policeman to politely, and quietly, ask her what she is doing. That he reaches a different conclusion to her explanation is also perfectly reasonable, as is the issuance of a fixed penalty. She now has the opportunity to challenge that notice. She wasn’t arrested or removed. The was no harassment at all. It was polite enquiry by a policeman doing his job of ensuring an exclusion zone is respected and that others in the area are not subjected to pressure or harassment themselves. Only an anti abortionist would see this as a problem. Which has no connection at all to either the events in Southport or the riots. So why it has found its way into here is a mystery. The woman in question was anti the destruction of nascent life. [Similarly, we now have people being arrested for merely observing disturbances.]
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Aug 24 8.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I very much doubt if any of the events last week attracted many who went to peacefully protest, given the way they were first promoted and then reported. Peaceful protesters knowing that rioting has happened elsewhere don’t attend something which has the same purpose. Trying to portray recent events as peaceful protesters being misunderstood and misreported by the media is to take excuse making to new heights. These were disgraceful events carried out by yobs and bone heads having been fermented by far right influencers on social media. It’s their poison which now needs to be drawn and neutralised. That’s where we should expect action. With all the “freedom of speech” bs quickly following. We know people have concerns about immigration. Mostly about illegal immigration and the housing of asylum seekers. The same people know we cannot do without legal, managed, migration, at least for the moment. Did you say the same about BLM protests, where public property was wilfully damaged?
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Aug 24 8.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
She now has the opportunity to challenge that notice. She wasn’t arrested or removed. The was no harassment at all. It was polite enquiry by a policeman doing his job of ensuring an exclusion zone is respected and that others in the area are not subjected to pressure or harassment themselves. Only an anti abortionist would see this as a problem. Which has no connection at all to either the events in Southport or the riots. So why it has found its way into here is a mystery. She has been acquitted twice before, is this not harassment?
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