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HKOwen Hong Kong 22 Feb 24 11.02am
Originally posted by georgenorman Do you have a final solution, man of steel? His views are clear, he has already posted here Israel should go back to the 1967 borders, what he really wants is no Israel at all, river to the sea etc just like Hamas Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 22 Feb 24 11.02am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Do you have a final solution, man of steel?

His views are clear, he has already posted here Israel should go back to the 1967 borders, what he really wants is no Israel at all, river to the sea etc just like Hamas

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 22 Feb 24 11.58am
Originally posted by Matov Absolutely. Disgraceful behaviour from the Speaker. Going against accepted conventions. Out of interest, and this is a loaded question, when Bercow did similar by way of going against similar conventions over Brexit did you object then? The honest answer is I don't know, but I don't recall getting into any discussion on it if I'm honest, probably not - as a topic, I was nowhere near as impassioned about Brexit as I am this, particularly beyond the initial referendum and result. Labour have once again shown why they are not worth my vote - more interested in politicking than anything else.
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Originally posted by Matov

Absolutely. Disgraceful behaviour from the Speaker. Going against accepted conventions.

Out of interest, and this is a loaded question, when Bercow did similar by way of going against similar conventions over Brexit did you object then?

The honest answer is I don't know, but I don't recall getting into any discussion on it if I'm honest, probably not - as a topic, I was nowhere near as impassioned about Brexit as I am this, particularly beyond the initial referendum and result.

Labour have once again shown why they are not worth my vote - more interested in politicking than anything else.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 24 12.41pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'The UK parliament goes to war over a cease-fire'. What flavour of ceasefire would you like? One that isn't really one at all. In truth nobody is listening to British politicians anyway. The Middle East is Islamic, Israel is the only non-Islamic state in the whole region. Israel could not be doing any of this without USA that country is also responsible for this war. To think that Israel, of all people, is committing a genocidal act described as another 'holocaust' by the Brazilian PM, with USA financial and military support, really it's like tearing up the history you once thought you understood. And what is the goal of all this, to eliminate Hamas in Gaza? What actual difference would that make, Israel is surrounded. Yes, but if you have a sh1t army against a good one - you lose. As the Arab states have demonstrated several times before. Quite clearly, Israel is not scared of its neighbours - and it looks like its judgement on that, at least, is correct. What some people need to come to terms with is that in this world a good military is still required. This is not a lovely rainbow coloured , global world where we're all holding hands as friends - except for portrayals in a lot of the media. The reality is somewhat different. Edited by ASCPFC (22 Feb 2024 12.47pm) Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 24 12.41pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'The UK parliament goes to war over a cease-fire'.

What flavour of ceasefire would you like? One that isn't really one at all.

In truth nobody is listening to British politicians anyway.

The Middle East is Islamic, Israel is the only non-Islamic state in the whole region.

Israel could not be doing any of this without USA that country is also responsible for this war.

To think that Israel, of all people, is committing a genocidal act described as another 'holocaust' by the Brazilian PM, with USA financial and military support, really it's like tearing up the history you once thought you understood.

And what is the goal of all this, to eliminate Hamas in Gaza?

What actual difference would that make, Israel is surrounded.

Yes, but if you have a sh1t army against a good one - you lose. As the Arab states have demonstrated several times before. Quite clearly, Israel is not scared of its neighbours - and it looks like its judgement on that, at least, is correct. What some people need to come to terms with is that in this world a good military is still required. This is not a lovely rainbow coloured , global world where we're all holding hands as friends - except for portrayals in a lot of the media. The reality is somewhat different.

Edited by ASCPFC (22 Feb 2024 12.47pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Feb 24 1.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I've got to admit to somewhat of a raised eyebrow to parliamentarians reportedly crying and expressing fears for their lives concerning pressure from certain 'protected' groups and 'progressive' activists have put them under.....you know the usual suspects. I raise that eyebrow because these same parliamentarians have been telling us for ages that we need to fear the 'far right' in this country and that certain groups need 'protection'...passing laws and appeasing them at every turn......when in reality it appears that those now crying for protection are the very parliamentarians themselves from the very same. Left or right the politicians in that esteemed building, by their very politics, turn it into a circus parody, with their leaders being the chief clowns. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2024 10.08am) Perhaps the great stink has reached the nostrils of MPs. I'm glad they are scared. Finally, they might realise what they have done to this country and see the threat to democracy itself. .
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've got to admit to somewhat of a raised eyebrow to parliamentarians reportedly crying and expressing fears for their lives concerning pressure from certain 'protected' groups and 'progressive' activists have put them under.....you know the usual suspects.

I raise that eyebrow because these same parliamentarians have been telling us for ages that we need to fear the 'far right' in this country and that certain groups need 'protection'...passing laws and appeasing them at every turn......when in reality it appears that those now crying for protection are the very parliamentarians themselves from the very same.

Left or right the politicians in that esteemed building, by their very politics, turn it into a circus parody, with their leaders being the chief clowns.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2024 10.08am)

Perhaps the great stink has reached the nostrils of MPs.

I'm glad they are scared.
Finally, they might realise what they have done to this country and see the threat to democracy itself.

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Stirlingsays 22 Feb 24 2.29pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Perhaps the great stink has reached the nostrils of MPs. I'm glad they are scared. Finally, they might realise what they have done to this country and see the threat to democracy itself. . If only my man, if only. But like the mother who forces a sex change on their preteen, they will never admit to their own failings and psychosis whatever the outcomes are. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2024 2.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Feb 24 2.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Perhaps the great stink has reached the nostrils of MPs.

I'm glad they are scared.
Finally, they might realise what they have done to this country and see the threat to democracy itself.

If only my man, if only.

But like the mother who forces a sex change on their preteen, they will never admit to their own failings and psychosis whatever the outcomes are.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2024 2.29pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Feb 24 5.07pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays If only my man, if only. But like the mother who forces a sex change on their preteen, they will never admit to their own failings and psychosis whatever the outcomes are. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2024 2.29pm) I said it in hope rather than expectation.
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Hrolf The Ganger

22 Feb 24 5.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If only my man, if only.

But like the mother who forces a sex change on their preteen, they will never admit to their own failings and psychosis whatever the outcomes are.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2024 2.29pm)

I said it in hope rather than expectation.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 24 5.09pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Perhaps the great stink has reached the nostrils of MPs. I'm glad they are scared. Finally, they might realise what they have done to this country and see the threat to democracy itself. . [Link] Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 24 5.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Perhaps the great stink has reached the nostrils of MPs.

I'm glad they are scared.
Finally, they might realise what they have done to this country and see the threat to democracy itself.

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steeleye20 Croydon 22 Feb 24 5.32pm
Had the conservatives not withdrawn, then each of the motions would have been voted on, that would have been in the speaker's mind. That, and the safety of MPs which hopefully is being addressed as a priority, he hasn't acted badly. Some good news British aid reaching Gaza by the Jordanian air force, so we have at last done something however small. Without Israel or the United States.
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Croydon 22 Feb 24 5.32pm

Had the conservatives not withdrawn, then each of the motions would have been voted on, that would have been in the speaker's mind.

That, and the safety of MPs which hopefully is being addressed as a priority, he hasn't acted badly.

Some good news British aid reaching Gaza by the Jordanian air force, so we have at last done something however small.

Without Israel or the United States.

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cryrst The garden of England 22 Feb 24 6.51pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'The UK parliament goes to war over a cease-fire'. What flavour of ceasefire would you like? One that isn't really one at all. In truth nobody is listening to British politicians anyway. The Middle East is Islamic, Israel is the only non-Islamic state in the whole region. Israel could not be doing any of this without USA that country is also responsible for this war. To think that Israel, of all people, is committing a genocidal act described as another 'holocaust' by the Brazilian PM, with USA financial and military support, really it's like tearing up the history you once thought you understood. And what is the goal of all this, to eliminate Hamas in Gaza? What actual difference would that make, Israel is surrounded. Genocidal ?
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The garden of England 22 Feb 24 6.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'The UK parliament goes to war over a cease-fire'.

What flavour of ceasefire would you like? One that isn't really one at all.

In truth nobody is listening to British politicians anyway.

The Middle East is Islamic, Israel is the only non-Islamic state in the whole region.

Israel could not be doing any of this without USA that country is also responsible for this war.

And what is the goal of all this, to eliminate Hamas in Gaza?

What actual difference would that make, Israel is surrounded.

Genocidal ?

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Matov 22 Feb 24 8.04pm
So lets look at the two scenarios. 1. The Speaker pulled this stunt to stop the Labour Party being embarrassed. 2. The Speaker pulled this stunt to 'protect' MP's from the hostile crowds of predominately Muslims outside protesting. LOL. Neither scenario bodes well for the UK. About time for a revolution me thinks. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

22 Feb 24 8.04pm

So lets look at the two scenarios.

1. The Speaker pulled this stunt to stop the Labour Party being embarrassed.

2. The Speaker pulled this stunt to 'protect' MP's from the hostile crowds of predominately Muslims outside protesting.

LOL.

Neither scenario bodes well for the UK. About time for a revolution me thinks.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Feb 24 8.22pm
Originally posted by Matov So lets look at the two scenarios. 1. The Speaker pulled this stunt to stop the Labour Party being embarrassed. 2. The Speaker pulled this stunt to 'protect' MP's from the hostile crowds of predominately Muslims outside protesting. LOL. Neither scenario bodes well for the UK. About time for a revolution me thinks. The Police ignored multiple offences by protestors outside Parliament yesterday including the projecting of 'From the river to the sea...." messages on to 'Big Ben'. Reporters were 'Egged', intimidated and faced hostile behaviour against them.MPs feared for their safety. Disgusting and abhorrent behaviour. The inaction of the Police was a total and utter disgrace. Edited by Willo (22 Feb 2024 11.15pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Feb 24 8.22pm

Originally posted by Matov

So lets look at the two scenarios.

1. The Speaker pulled this stunt to stop the Labour Party being embarrassed.

2. The Speaker pulled this stunt to 'protect' MP's from the hostile crowds of predominately Muslims outside protesting.

LOL.

Neither scenario bodes well for the UK. About time for a revolution me thinks.

The Police ignored multiple offences by protestors outside Parliament yesterday including the projecting of 'From the river to the sea...." messages on to 'Big Ben'. Reporters were 'Egged', intimidated and faced hostile behaviour against them.MPs feared for their safety.
Disgusting and abhorrent behaviour.

The inaction of the Police was a total and utter disgrace.

Edited by Willo (22 Feb 2024 11.15pm)

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 22 Feb 24 9.04pm
Originally posted by Willo The Police ignored multiple offences by protestors outside Parliament yesterday including the projecting of 'From the river to the sea...." messages on to 'Big Ben'. Reporters were 'Egged', intimidated and faced hostile behaviour against them.MPs feared for their safety. The inaction of the Police was a total and utter disgrace. Unfortunately when protesters damage plate glass on bank’s property or remove statues and cause various other forms of damage and the judges fail to dish out suitable punishment, then the police must feel like it’s not worth bothering with the process of detaining offenders. When the mob have the upper hand we are all lost. Edited by Willo (22 Feb 2024 8.45pm) hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by Willo

The inaction of the Police was a total and utter disgrace.

Unfortunately when protesters damage plate glass on bank’s property or remove statues and cause various other forms of damage and the judges fail to dish out suitable punishment, then the police must feel like it’s not worth bothering with the process of detaining offenders. When the mob have the upper hand we are all lost.

Edited by Willo (22 Feb 2024 8.45pm)

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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