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ChrisGC Wantage 16 Jul 19 7.50am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You are rather too fond of "when did you last stop beating your wife" type questions. The answer is no, and I certainly never have, and nor have I ever seen any "excuses" for any kind of criminal activity from "Mapletree" either. I suggest that you read things without trying to insert ideas that only exist in your own mind. Ha! Pot and kettle springs to mind. Not sure what you're on about anyway, I've always assumed you're a single bloke in their mum's basement on an old gateway computer running Windows 95. I'd be beyond mortified if you did have a wife and kids and were still able to turn a blind eye to all the noncing.
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Wantage 16 Jul 19 7.50am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are rather too fond of "when did you last stop beating your wife" type questions.

The answer is no, and I certainly never have, and nor have I ever seen any "excuses" for any kind of criminal activity from "Mapletree" either. I suggest that you read things without trying to insert ideas that only exist in your own mind.

Ha! Pot and kettle springs to mind.

Not sure what you're on about anyway, I've always assumed you're a single bloke in their mum's basement on an old gateway computer running Windows 95.

I'd be beyond mortified if you did have a wife and kids and were still able to turn a blind eye to all the noncing.

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ChrisGC Wantage 16 Jul 19 7.57am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree I never use apologist language I have not referred to the rapists as 'Asians', that is from the official reviews undertaken. But pray tell why? Do you mean we should categorise them as Muslims? Because of your personal agenda? I am perfectly happy to make the assumption that the 'Asian' individuals concerned in up to half of the gangs were mostly pakistani. As previously stated, it may well be there is something wrong with the society in which they are based. If the shoe fits....
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Originally posted by Mapletree

I never use apologist language

I have not referred to the rapists as 'Asians', that is from the official reviews undertaken. But pray tell why? Do you mean we should categorise them as Muslims? Because of your personal agenda?

I am perfectly happy to make the assumption that the 'Asian' individuals concerned in up to half of the gangs were mostly pakistani. As previously stated, it may well be there is something wrong with the society in which they are based.

If the shoe fits....

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davidpercival Croydon 16 Jul 19 9.47am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle His election campaign for the Euros didn't go too well did it? 2.2% of poll. Seems most people can see through the mighty ego with the tiny brain.
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Croydon 16 Jul 19 9.47am

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His election campaign for the Euros didn't go too well did it? 2.2% of poll. Seems most people can see through the mighty ego with the tiny brain.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 11.53am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ASCPFC This article was to wind up the impressionable - so not much of a swerve. Out of the article there are some selective facts designed to make Robinson look bad. But my favourite part was to start off about the 'country' house and hot-tub. This was purely included out of spite to Robinson and to deter his supporters. Quite hilarious that the BBC would concentrate far more on Robinson, than say decry the rape gangs or protest about soldiers being harassed on their home-coming parade. I would also wonder how many BBC employees, in particular the many executives, have country houses and hot-tubs paid for by tax payers' money - and not willingly donated as it is to Robinson, for instance? But anyway, I'm not any kind of Robinson follower by any means, yet you just seem unwilling to engage in anything other than 'he broke the law'. I have to suspect you just don't like him, which in a wider context, is meaningless. The article was to inform, which it did. Putting the fact that he lives in a £900,000 home whilst posing as a "man of the people", and addressing those who feel disadvantaged by immigration, is absolutely central to the story, so completely logical that it leads on that. It wasn't about the "rape gangs"! That's another swerve. It was about "Robinson". If you want to criticise the BBC's coverage of the "rape gang" or similar stories by all means do so, but not in this context. I think you will find they have been covered. Who else owns country houses is totally irrelevant. They don't go around posing as a champion of the downtrodden white man like "Robinson". The article adds context and colour to the public perception of "Robinson" which is important to be seen and considered by everyone. It's no hatchet job at all. It leaves it up to the reader to reach their own conclusions. It just gives information about "brand Robinson". For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 11.53am

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

This article was to wind up the impressionable - so not much of a swerve. Out of the article there are some selective facts designed to make Robinson look bad. But my favourite part was to start off about the 'country' house and hot-tub. This was purely included out of spite to Robinson and to deter his supporters. Quite hilarious that the BBC would concentrate far more on Robinson, than say decry the rape gangs or protest about soldiers being harassed on their home-coming parade.
I would also wonder how many BBC employees, in particular the many executives, have country houses and hot-tubs paid for by tax payers' money - and not willingly donated as it is to Robinson, for instance? But anyway, I'm not any kind of Robinson follower by any means, yet you just seem unwilling to engage in anything other than 'he broke the law'. I have to suspect you just don't like him, which in a wider context, is meaningless.

The article was to inform, which it did.

Putting the fact that he lives in a £900,000 home whilst posing as a "man of the people", and addressing those who feel disadvantaged by immigration, is absolutely central to the story, so completely logical that it leads on that.

It wasn't about the "rape gangs"! That's another swerve. It was about "Robinson". If you want to criticise the BBC's coverage of the "rape gang" or similar stories by all means do so, but not in this context. I think you will find they have been covered.

Who else owns country houses is totally irrelevant. They don't go around posing as a champion of the downtrodden white man like "Robinson".

The article adds context and colour to the public perception of "Robinson" which is important to be seen and considered by everyone. It's no hatchet job at all. It leaves it up to the reader to reach their own conclusions. It just gives information about "brand Robinson".

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 19 11.57am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Thank god for Robinson. There is no one else.....We have weasels pushing for acceptance of behaviours previous generations would have gone to war for......the BBC has an agenda over Islam, ex BBC Robin Akien the writer of 'the noble liar' refers to it within the recent interview I linked to. Charlie Hebdo scared the s***e out of them. As for the rapes...and the state's behaviour and response...I say never forget. Never forget what people in positions of power allowed to go unchecked for decades.....this isn't over and justice hasn't been done. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2019 12.03pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Thank god for Robinson.

There is no one else.....We have weasels pushing for acceptance of behaviours previous generations would have gone to war for......the BBC has an agenda over Islam, ex BBC Robin Akien the writer of 'the noble liar' refers to it within the recent interview I linked to.

Charlie Hebdo scared the s***e out of them.

As for the rapes...and the state's behaviour and response...I say never forget. Never forget what people in positions of power allowed to go unchecked for decades.....this isn't over and justice hasn't been done.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2019 12.03pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 12.08pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC Ha! Pot and kettle springs to mind. Not sure what you're on about anyway, I've always assumed you're a single bloke in their mum's basement on an old gateway computer running Windows 95. I'd be beyond mortified if you did have a wife and kids and were still able to turn a blind eye to all the noncing. It's reassuring to know that you have a mind, so thanks. I would not have guessed. I am in a cottage in Cornwall, with my dog at my feet. We will walk on the SW path later as it's a lovely day. My computer runs Windows 10 and I have a fast fibre connection. My wife is currently overseas with her family organising a house "blessing" for the home we have recently had built for them. I was with her until last week. She will be back here in August. I have 2 children, 4 grandchildren and 1 great granddaughter. So turning a "blind eye" to anything which threatens them is very far from my agenda. Your persistent insults that simply because I try to support the professionals whose job it is to investigate crime means that I somehow support the criminals is just ridiculous. I want every criminal act detected and the perpetrators punished. There is a right way to do things and a wrong way. Vigilante action, or even threats of action, is the wrong way. We must work through the justice system, even it is slow, frustrating and occasionally flawed. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 12.08pm

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

Ha! Pot and kettle springs to mind.

Not sure what you're on about anyway, I've always assumed you're a single bloke in their mum's basement on an old gateway computer running Windows 95.

I'd be beyond mortified if you did have a wife and kids and were still able to turn a blind eye to all the noncing.

It's reassuring to know that you have a mind, so thanks. I would not have guessed.

I am in a cottage in Cornwall, with my dog at my feet. We will walk on the SW path later as it's a lovely day. My computer runs Windows 10 and I have a fast fibre connection.

My wife is currently overseas with her family organising a house "blessing" for the home we have recently had built for them. I was with her until last week. She will be back here in August.

I have 2 children, 4 grandchildren and 1 great granddaughter. So turning a "blind eye" to anything which threatens them is very far from my agenda.

Your persistent insults that simply because I try to support the professionals whose job it is to investigate crime means that I somehow support the criminals is just ridiculous. I want every criminal act detected and the perpetrators punished.

There is a right way to do things and a wrong way. Vigilante action, or even threats of action, is the wrong way. We must work through the justice system, even it is slow, frustrating and occasionally flawed.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 19 12.08pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by davidpercival His election campaign for the Euros didn't go too well did it? 2.2% of poll. Seems most people can see through the mighty ego with the tiny brain. Not bad considering most people who agree with him are also pro Brexit and so are trying to ensure that. If the vote was about what state policy should be towards Islam in this country and we had the state's approach versus Robinson's I think you'd be seeing a lot more than 2.2 percent for Robinson. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Jul 19 12.08pm

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Originally posted by davidpercival

His election campaign for the Euros didn't go too well did it? 2.2% of poll. Seems most people can see through the mighty ego with the tiny brain.

Not bad considering most people who agree with him are also pro Brexit and so are trying to ensure that.

If the vote was about what state policy should be towards Islam in this country and we had the state's approach versus Robinson's I think you'd be seeing a lot more than 2.2 percent for Robinson.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 12.16pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays Thank god for Robinson. There is no one else.....We have weasels pushing for acceptance of behaviours previous generations would have gone to war for......the BBC has an agenda over Islam, ex BBC Robin Akien the writer of 'the noble liar' refers to it within the recent interview I linked to. Charlie Hebdo scared the s***e out of them. As for the rapes...and the state's behaviour and response...I say never forget. Never forget what people in positions of power allowed to go unchecked for decades.....this isn't over and justice hasn't been done. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2019 12.03pm) Kindly identify some of these weasels! I know of no-one who wishes to see child rape by grooming gangs become accepted behaviour, excepting possibly those who have been, or are about to be, convicted of that offence. Everyone else expects British law and standards to be applied to without any exceptions. The differences arise over how the investigations are handled and not that they shouldn't take place. That the authorities might have been slow to react is a legitimate question which deserves full investigation so that any lessons can be learned. It doesn't mean anything else. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jul 2019 12.17pm) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 12.16pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Thank god for Robinson.

There is no one else.....We have weasels pushing for acceptance of behaviours previous generations would have gone to war for......the BBC has an agenda over Islam, ex BBC Robin Akien the writer of 'the noble liar' refers to it within the recent interview I linked to.

Charlie Hebdo scared the s***e out of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2019 12.03pm)

Kindly identify some of these weasels!

I know of no-one who wishes to see child rape by grooming gangs become accepted behaviour, excepting possibly those who have been, or are about to be, convicted of that offence.

Everyone else expects British law and standards to be applied to without any exceptions.

The differences arise over how the investigations are handled and not that they shouldn't take place. That the authorities might have been slow to react is a legitimate question which deserves full investigation so that any lessons can be learned. It doesn't mean anything else.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jul 2019 12.17pm)

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 19 12.19pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Kindly identify some of these weasels! I know of no-one who wishes to see child rape by grooming gangs become accepted behaviour, excepting possibly those who have been, or are about to be, convicted of that offence. Everyone else expects British law and standards to be applied to without any exceptions. The differences arise over how the investigations are handled and not that they shouldn't take place. That the authorities might have been slow to react is a legitimate question which deserves full investigation so that any lessons can be learned. It doesn't mean anything else. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jul 2019 12.17pm) I politely ask you to stop replying to me. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Jul 19 12.19pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Kindly identify some of these weasels!

I know of no-one who wishes to see child rape by grooming gangs become accepted behaviour, excepting possibly those who have been, or are about to be, convicted of that offence.

Everyone else expects British law and standards to be applied to without any exceptions.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jul 2019 12.17pm)

I politely ask you to stop replying to me.

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Mapletree Croydon 16 Jul 19 12.32pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays I politely ask you to stop replying to me. Haha. You post immediately after his, then moan that he responds. Now you know how it felt to be me when the likes of you and Hrolf were always on my back in the earlier days. You'll get used to Wisbech in the end, his heart is definitely in the right place. As indeed is yours, even though you can be a dreadful grump.
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Croydon 16 Jul 19 12.32pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I politely ask you to stop replying to me.

Haha. You post immediately after his, then moan that he responds.

Now you know how it felt to be me when the likes of you and Hrolf were always on my back in the earlier days.

You'll get used to Wisbech in the end, his heart is definitely in the right place. As indeed is yours, even though you can be a dreadful grump.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 12.37pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Kindly identify some of these weasels! I know of no-one who wishes to see child rape by grooming gangs become accepted behaviour, excepting possibly those who have been, or are about to be, convicted of that offence. Everyone else expects British law and standards to be applied to without any exceptions. The differences arise over how the investigations are handled and not that they shouldn't take place. That the authorities might have been slow to react is a legitimate question which deserves full investigation so that any lessons can be learned. It doesn't mean anything else. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jul 2019 12.17pm) Originally posted by Stirlingsays I politely ask you to stop replying to me. I have repeatedly politely informed you that I won't. Try answering the post, rather than getting paranoid about the poster. Making wild claims ought not be allowed to stand without challenge. If they are true then back them up and don't just duck away because you don't like the poster. That's the response of a coward. If you don't have the courage to do so then perhaps someone else will come to your aid. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 19 12.37pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Kindly identify some of these weasels!

I know of no-one who wishes to see child rape by grooming gangs become accepted behaviour, excepting possibly those who have been, or are about to be, convicted of that offence.

Everyone else expects British law and standards to be applied to without any exceptions.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jul 2019 12.17pm)

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I politely ask you to stop replying to me.

I have repeatedly politely informed you that I won't.

Try answering the post, rather than getting paranoid about the poster.

Making wild claims ought not be allowed to stand without challenge.

If they are true then back them up and don't just duck away because you don't like the poster. That's the response of a coward.

If you don't have the courage to do so then perhaps someone else will come to your aid.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 19 12.40pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree Haha. You post immediately after his, then moan that he responds. Now you know how it felt to be me when the likes of you and Hrolf were always on my back in the earlier days. You'll get used to Wisbech in the end, his heart is definitely in the right place. As indeed is yours, even though you can be a dreadful grump. You never made the request for someone to stop posting at you. I've noted your position here. No, I'm done and I'm just waiting for the block facility. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Originally posted by Mapletree

Haha. You post immediately after his, then moan that he responds.

Now you know how it felt to be me when the likes of you and Hrolf were always on my back in the earlier days.

You'll get used to Wisbech in the end, his heart is definitely in the right place. As indeed is yours, even though you can be a dreadful grump.

You never made the request for someone to stop posting at you. I've noted your position here.

No, I'm done and I'm just waiting for the block facility.

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