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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Dec 14 10.00pm | |
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I'm not responding to the above post but, in relation, I'm not quite sure what the scrutiny of UKIP has to do with the way forward for leftist politics, Matthew. Could you clear that one up for us.
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matt_himself Matataland 02 Dec 14 10.15pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 02 Dec 2014 10.00pm
I'm not responding to the above post but, in relation, I'm not quite sure what the scrutiny of UKIP has to do with the way forward for leftist politics, Matthew. Could you clear that one up for us.
What I am is saying is that Seth is obsessed with hating UKIP yet he offers nothing constructive to oppose them. Therefore, Michael, what is the leftish ideology Seth is pursuing that will change this country for the better and how, Michael, will it be implemented? Simple question. I await a simple answer. From Seth.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 03 Dec 14 1.34am | |
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*Cough cough* Aaanyway, in other ukip news, the right hand once again appears to be blissfully unaware of what the left hand is doing: Confusion over UKIP policy on sex education UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. Mr Farage told an audience of young people that children under 11 should get sex and relationship education. UKIP's deputy leader and education spokesman Paul Nuttall had previously said it should be axed for this group. Mr Farage said he had "never advocated that" but later admitted that what Mr Nuttall said was party policy.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 03 Dec 14 1.36am | |
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And I obviously would never, ever condone this sort of behaviour: HIV campaigners dump manure outside Ukip's Croydon office in protest over Nigel Farage's 'offensive' comments
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matt_himself Matataland 03 Dec 14 7.30am | |
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Seth gave the answer I thought he would. He doesn't have an answer. He is just full of hate for UKIP. And that my friends is the reason why the left is retreating. No ideas. No positivity. No vision. Just base scaremongering. Thanks Seth. You have validated my opinion of you with this.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 03 Dec 14 9.57am | |
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Quote matt_himself at 03 Dec 2014 7.30am
Seth gave the answer I thought he would. He doesn't have an answer. He is just full of hate for UKIP. And that my friends is the reason why the left is retreating. No ideas. No positivity. No vision. Just base scaremongering. Thanks Seth. You have validated my opinion of you with this. Green Party membership is currently sky-rocketing, and they are very much challenging UKIP as the fastest growing political party. So the above is actually bollocks. What is growing is the so-called anti-establishment parties. The mainstream parties continue to suffer. Whether that will be reflected in the GE results remains to be seen. Edited by OknotOK (03 Dec 2014 9.58am)
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Pawson Palace Croydon 03 Dec 14 10.33am | |
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Having read through the entirety of the UKIP manifesto properly I do like some of the policies they are proposing. I am unaware at present as I haven't researched fully what other parties are also offering these but the ones that stand out to me: - Offering of apprenticeships at a school level Some of these really appeal to me in all honesty and I think it demonstrates they have given some thought outside of the who anti EU agenda.
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Hoof Hearted 03 Dec 14 10.53am | |
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Quote Seth at 03 Dec 2014 1.34am
*Cough cough* Aaanyway, in other ukip news, the right hand once again appears to be blissfully unaware of what the left hand is doing: Confusion over UKIP policy on sex education UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. Mr Farage told an audience of young people that children under 11 should get sex and relationship education. UKIP's deputy leader and education spokesman Paul Nuttall had previously said it should be axed for this group. Mr Farage said he had "never advocated that" but later admitted that what Mr Nuttall said was party policy.
Kin'ell Seth, that is hardly worth reporting mate. That's what I was saying in my last post.... UKIP subjected to petty chastiding by the media who can't wait to trip them up, yet the more sh1t that is thrown at them the public love them more.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 03 Dec 14 11.55am | |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Dec 2014 10.33am
Having read through the entirety of the UKIP manifesto properly I do like some of the policies they are proposing. I am unaware at present as I haven't researched fully what other parties are also offering these but the ones that stand out to me: - Offering of apprenticeships at a school level Some of these really appeal to me in all honesty and I think it demonstrates they have given some thought outside of the who anti EU agenda. Some of their policies do sound attractive but the problem is that no sooner do they publish a policy than they end up having to backtrack on it because someone else says something contradictory (see my link above), or they disown the entire manifesto, like Farage did with their 2010 effort. It's still likely that they'll do well in May because of the public desire to give the big 3 a kicking, but having a coherent set of policies which they can all rally round and agree on still appears to be a bridge too far for them.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 03 Dec 14 12.03pm | |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Dec 2014 10.53am
Quote Seth at 03 Dec 2014 1.34am
*Cough cough* Aaanyway, in other ukip news, the right hand once again appears to be blissfully unaware of what the left hand is doing: Confusion over UKIP policy on sex education UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. Mr Farage told an audience of young people that children under 11 should get sex and relationship education. UKIP's deputy leader and education spokesman Paul Nuttall had previously said it should be axed for this group. Mr Farage said he had "never advocated that" but later admitted that what Mr Nuttall said was party policy.
Kin'ell Seth, that is hardly worth reporting mate. That's what I was saying in my last post.... UKIP subjected to petty chastiding by the media who can't wait to trip them up, yet the more sh1t that is thrown at them the public love them more.
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Kermit8 Hevon 03 Dec 14 12.44pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 03 Dec 2014 7.30am
Seth gave the answer I thought he would. He doesn't have an answer. He is just full of hate for UKIP. And that my friends is the reason why the left is retreating. No ideas. No positivity. No vision. Just base scaremongering. Thanks Seth. You have validated my opinion of you with this.
Because, as it is, there is no leftist party in their enviable position so best we focus on Nigel et al, don't you think, rather than use distraction and muddying the waters.
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npn Crowborough 03 Dec 14 12.48pm | |
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Quote Seth at 03 Dec 2014 12.03pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Dec 2014 10.53am
Quote Seth at 03 Dec 2014 1.34am
*Cough cough* Aaanyway, in other ukip news, the right hand once again appears to be blissfully unaware of what the left hand is doing: Confusion over UKIP policy on sex education UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. UKIP leader Nigel Farage has had to clarify his party's policy on sex education in schools after he appeared to make a U-turn during a live debate. Mr Farage told an audience of young people that children under 11 should get sex and relationship education. UKIP's deputy leader and education spokesman Paul Nuttall had previously said it should be axed for this group. Mr Farage said he had "never advocated that" but later admitted that what Mr Nuttall said was party policy.
Kin'ell Seth, that is hardly worth reporting mate. That's what I was saying in my last post.... UKIP subjected to petty chastiding by the media who can't wait to trip them up, yet the more sh1t that is thrown at them the public love them more.
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