Whilst I understand many of your sentiments, the reality is that Johnson proved to be an utter tool. And we all have to take some of the blame for putting him in number 10.

Johnson leapt on the Leave bandwagon with every expectation that it would lose in 2016 but cement his standing with the mainstream of the Conservative Party. He had no real principled stance on it other than what was good for him.

And after having Gove pull his 'et tu' moment on him, was largely relegated to the side lines until May blew the election in 2017 and then the Remain Retards came into full voice trying to over-turn the referendum result.

By the time it got to December 2019, I was so angry with the post-2016 ref Remainers that I no longer cared about who I voted for, as long as it delivered the result of getting Brexit done. As simple as that.

So willing to put my hands up and admit I played my part in getting this moron into number 10. But I also lay the blame for that equally at the feet of any and everybody who tried, by fair means and foul, to have my vote in June 2016 rendered null and void. Cause and effect.

The Johnson showed his true colours, allowing the current Mrs Johnson (and I expect her to be out the picture within 18 months at most) to effectively take control of his bollocks and impose a load of Green BS on us all, along with promoting her friends and alienating the smartest people around him.

His utter lack of leadership around those Downing Street parties means he does not deserve to be running the country. The most stringent place in the UK for sticking EXCATLY to the rules during that period should have been Whitehall. His domain.

As to the actual incident that drove the final nail in the coffin, then I see it as just tawdry froth. But it was enough.

None of this reflects well on any of us who take any kind of interest, and are willing to spout off in public about it, in politics.

Lets see what happens next.

Absolutely no. But the choice was between Brexit being honoured or not. It was a binary choice. Now, obviously, I blame the post 6/2016 Remainers for that but I try to live my life by looking for where I have to accept responsibility and by December 2019, all I wanted was Brexit over the line. The only thing that mattered, despite my reservations about Johnson, which were very real following his stint as London Mayor.

I am assuming that we would both place ourselves on what is labelled as the 'Dissident' Right and Johnson is not our friend. Never has been, never will be.

But I voted for him and he has proven to be a complete f***ing moron. Have to put my hands up for that because I was pretty certain of that in advance.

That was quite an enjoyable post to read despite my piggy gammon politics being summarily butchered for bacon within it.

I can't say I recognise the intellectual gap between MPs on remain/leave. Just off the top of my head there's Mogg, Gove, David Davies and of course plenty of pretty bright people worked on that campaign like Lord Frost and of course famously Cummings....these aren't dullards.

Sure all large groups are broad churches....however, it can't be said that the Tories haven't shifted to the left on social issues. The Tories of my youth would have never have signed up to Blair's 'hate speech' crap.

That said, there was much to agree with in your post....I don't like duplicitousness and it can't be reasonably denied that the two faced monster is a major aspect of Johnson's personality.

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But he is not a 'leader', that is the point. He is a narcissist who has shown incredibly bad leadership characteristics.

I don't disagree about Labour making the most of this but that is the game. But Johnson was horrendous at his job, and his Mrs effectively drove out the smart people around him in favour for her own friends. He had the chance to genuinely lead this country through the biggest crisis its faced since WW2. And he f***ed it up.

Proper Lady Macbeth s*** going on allied with that destroyer of almost all political careers, hubris.

When is a resignation not a resignation - when it's Boris Johnson.

Clearly determined to cling on and drag everyone down with him.

To actually get him out I think a vote of confidence not sure.

Firstly, you do realise the media is largely right wing? And even there his support has evaporated.

Secondly, it is his own party, including his natural support on the right, that is turning against him.

Thirdly, and by the "disgusting" campaign against Trump, you mean his daily feed to the media and opposition of gaffs and errors that made the task nothing short of a turkey shoot. What may have made it disgusting was the fact that it was akin to tripping over a disabled person as Trump was that bad.