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Midlands Eagle 28 Jan 19 2.37pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Sainsbury's, Asda and McDonald's are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce. I don't think that I've ever seen McDonalds and fresh food used in the same sentence before
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Originally posted by steeleye20

Sainsbury's, Asda and McDonald's are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce.

I don't think that I've ever seen McDonalds and fresh food used in the same sentence before

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.47pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Here's my research Freedom of movement is a specific right for EU passport holders to move around the bloc to take up work in any country. And there are actually limits on it. People can be refused admittance on security grounds. They can also legally be required to leave after three months if they do not have a job or fulfill other conditions such as being able to support themselves financially. [Link] To do this, they would have to supply an address on arrival or register with the HO which have chosen not to do. You can blame the Govt for not pursuing this but recently wasn't there a debate about whether EU nationals should register (and pay?). Let me put this scenario to you: At a point of entry you can only have an EU and non EU passport channel. Therefore UK passport holders share the same channel as EU nationals. If all EU nationals were asked for an address and their intentions, this would delay passengers even more than now. Would you be happy with this? (if you say no, I am sorry I do not believe you)
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Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.47pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Here's my research

Freedom of movement is a specific right for EU passport holders to move around the bloc to take up work in any country. And there are actually limits on it. People can be refused admittance on security grounds. They can also legally be required to leave after three months if they do not have a job or fulfill other conditions such as being able to support themselves financially.

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To do this, they would have to supply an address on arrival or register with the HO which have chosen not to do.
You can blame the Govt for not pursuing this but recently wasn't there a debate about whether EU nationals should register (and pay?).
Let me put this scenario to you:
At a point of entry you can only have an EU and non EU passport channel. Therefore UK passport holders share the same channel as EU nationals. If all EU nationals were asked for an address and their intentions, this would delay passengers even more than now. Would you be happy with this? (if you say no, I am sorry I do not believe you)

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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jan 19 2.48pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 My understanding is that what Pussay states is true for other EU members who choose to enforce the directive, but that Mrs May as Home Secretary not only decided against, but still does not have a registration system of EU migrants. I don't disagree Steeleye my point was better to stop a problem before it happens rather than have to fix it afterwards. Even if we had a registration process we would still have to have someone tracking down those who would be asked to go home and of course our border controls are so useless we would be chasing someone who had already left we just didn't know it. But I take your point the government could and should have done more. One more point
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Beckenham 28 Jan 19 2.48pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

My understanding is that what Pussay states is true for other EU members who choose to enforce the directive, but that Mrs May as Home Secretary not only decided against, but still does not have a registration system of EU migrants.

I don't disagree Steeleye my point was better to stop a problem before it happens rather than have to fix it afterwards. Even if we had a registration process we would still have to have someone tracking down those who would be asked to go home and of course our border controls are so useless we would be chasing someone who had already left we just didn't know it.

But I take your point the government could and should have done more.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 Jan 19 2.49pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I don't think that I've ever seen McDonalds and fresh food used in the same sentence before Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 28 Jan 19 2.49pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I don't think that I've ever seen McDonalds and fresh food used in the same sentence before

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.49pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 A no-deal Brexit threatens the UK's food security and will lead to higher prices and empty shelves in the short-term, retailers are warning. Sainsbury's, Asda and McDonald's are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce. The warning comes in a letter from the British Retail Consortium and is signed by several of the major food retailers. Of course, as any brexiteer will tell you, this is nonsense and these people don't know their own business.............. And of course, they only have the best interests of the consumers at heart don't they!
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Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.49pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A no-deal Brexit threatens the UK's food security and will lead to higher prices and empty shelves in the short-term, retailers are warning.

Sainsbury's, Asda and McDonald's are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce.

The warning comes in a letter from the British Retail Consortium and is signed by several of the major food retailers.

Of course, as any brexiteer will tell you, this is nonsense and these people don't know their own business..............

And of course, they only have the best interests of the consumers at heart don't they!

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.51pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Here here Shame to lose a decent contributor, especially through such astounding ignorance So only brexiteers are ignorant? Sums it up really
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Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.51pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Here here

Shame to lose a decent contributor, especially through such astounding ignorance

So only brexiteers are ignorant? Sums it up really

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Lyons550 Shirley 28 Jan 19 2.53pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Sorry I am confused by your post. We are talking about EU citizens not migrants or refugees or asylum seekers. If they have to be deported they would go back to their home EU country, as previously mentioned UK does not do this currently. Apologies Badger, I was confusing the two. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 28 Jan 19 2.53pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Sorry I am confused by your post. We are talking about EU citizens not migrants or refugees or asylum seekers. If they have to be deported they would go back to their home EU country, as previously mentioned UK does not do this currently.

Apologies Badger, I was confusing the two.

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.55pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 My understanding is that what Pussay states is true for other EU members who choose to enforce the directive, but that Mrs May as Home Secretary not only decided against, but still does not have a registration system of EU migrants. Believe me, it was no different under a Labour Government. A registration system has always been in place but no-one was forced to use it ( I suspect you and others on here would have been opposed to this)
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Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.55pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Believe me, it was no different under a Labour Government. A registration system has always been in place but no-one was forced to use it ( I suspect you and others on here would have been opposed to this)

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.58pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Sneering condescension. And that, really, is all you've got in your locker. I'll resist the temptation to repay you in your own coin because it'd be just too easy and, frankly, I'm far, far better at it than you are. You can scuttle away and sulk for all I care. "Withdrawing from this thread" indeed. Don't be such a pompous drama queen. Well said. That post sums up the attitude of remainers. Can't bear the result (or was there one?). Anyone who voted to leave are ignorant racists
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Horsham 28 Jan 19 2.58pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Sneering condescension. And that, really, is all you've got in your locker. I'll resist the temptation to repay you in your own coin because it'd be just too easy and, frankly, I'm far, far better at it than you are.

You can scuttle away and sulk for all I care. "Withdrawing from this thread" indeed. Don't be such a pompous drama queen.

Well said. That post sums up the attitude of remainers. Can't bear the result (or was there one?). Anyone who voted to leave are ignorant racists

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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jan 19 3.00pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 A no-deal Brexit threatens the UK's food security and will lead to higher prices and empty shelves in the short-term, retailers are warning. Sainsbury's, Asda and McDonald's are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce. The warning comes in a letter from the British Retail Consortium and is signed by several of the major food retailers. Of course, as any brexiteer will tell you, this is nonsense and these people don't know their own business.............. Interesting I haven't seen this news item so I will be speculating. The EU will still want to sell us their food, we are one of the major export markets for France. I can only assume that the supermarkets are referring to the food being stuck at the borders in France due to a bureaucratic log jam rather than the Europeans refusing to sell us there stuff and letting it rot in the fields? If that is the issue the chap in charge of the port at Calais has said on several occasions there will be no delay at his end deal or no deal. He is very aware that other European ports are touting for business in the UK so wants to ensure Calais runs smoothly. Now of course I wouldn't put it past some over officious UK customs officer to hold the goods up when they arrive but I heard Peter Lilly yesterday make the same point as the Calais guy, we wave this stuff through. If we do have a no deal I expect we will have a few days of confusion then it will all calm down. One more point
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Beckenham 28 Jan 19 3.00pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A no-deal Brexit threatens the UK's food security and will lead to higher prices and empty shelves in the short-term, retailers are warning.

Sainsbury's, Asda and McDonald's are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce.

The warning comes in a letter from the British Retail Consortium and is signed by several of the major food retailers.

Of course, as any brexiteer will tell you, this is nonsense and these people don't know their own business..............

Interesting I haven't seen this news item so I will be speculating.

The EU will still want to sell us their food, we are one of the major export markets for France. I can only assume that the supermarkets are referring to the food being stuck at the borders in France due to a bureaucratic log jam rather than the Europeans refusing to sell us there stuff and letting it rot in the fields?

If that is the issue the chap in charge of the port at Calais has said on several occasions there will be no delay at his end deal or no deal. He is very aware that other European ports are touting for business in the UK so wants to ensure Calais runs smoothly.

Now of course I wouldn't put it past some over officious UK customs officer to hold the goods up when they arrive but I heard Peter Lilly yesterday make the same point as the Calais guy, we wave this stuff through.

If we do have a no deal I expect we will have a few days of confusion then it will all calm down.

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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jan 19 3.02pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Apologies Badger, I was confusing the two. Not a problem One more point
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Beckenham 28 Jan 19 3.02pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Apologies Badger, I was confusing the two.

Not a problem

One more point

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 Jan 19 3.04pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Here here Shame to lose a decent contributor, especially through such astounding ignorance Are you referring to my post? I do hope not. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 28 Jan 19 3.04pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Here here

Shame to lose a decent contributor, especially through such astounding ignorance

Are you referring to my post? I do hope not.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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