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 Badger11  Beckenham 27 Jan 19 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Immigration you mean Can we ever know what's in someone's heart? You can only go on what people tell you not what you think there motives are, it is a survey after all and not a lie detector.
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cryrst  The garden of England 27 Jan 19 9.21pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Can we ever know what's in someone's heart? You can only go on what people tell you not what you think there motives are, it is a survey after all and not a lie detector. You wrote along the lines of people in the uk making their own decisions on uk matters was the reason for voting brexit.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Jan 19 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
thanks for clearing that up. If only you came along sooner we could have saved so much time It's true. Everything else is just noise.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jan 19 9.43pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You wrote along the lines of people in the uk making their own decisions on uk matters was the reason for voting brexit. That is what the survey said.
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| cryrst The garden of England 27 Jan 19 10.15pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
That is what the survey said. So If you were a brexiteer
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Pussay Patrol  27 Jan 19 10.23pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You wrote along the lines of people in the uk making their own decisions on uk matters was the reason for voting brexit. I posted an article recently that showed that all the EU decisions / laws that were passed, UK agreed on 87% of them and interestingly, in the same article below, there was one high profile case which we lost, which was changing the banking system. George Osbourne (our UK elected Chancellor) was, surprise surprise voting against it despite the fact more than three quarters of the British public, including 68% of Conservative voters, supported the EU proposal. Yet people believe our politicians and system is democratic !!
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| Pussay Patrol 27 Jan 19 10.25pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So If you were a brexiteer The idea we cannot control EU immigration is a myth. We have the powers to control, the government doesn't exercise them. More lies
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| dannyboy1978 28 Jan 19 7.22am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
The idea we cannot control EU immigration is a myth. We have the powers to control, the government doesn't exercise them. More lies And that's all they had to do, hold back the numbers which they could have easily done. This is why I've got this niggling feeling we are leaving through higher powers nothing to do with our politicians.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Jan 19 9.17am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
And that's all they had to do, hold back the numbers which they could have easily done. This is why I've got this niggling feeling we are leaving through higher powers nothing to do with our politicians. Huh?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Jan 19 9.24am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I posted an article recently that showed that all the EU decisions / laws that were passed, UK agreed on 87% of them Yet people believe our politicians and system is democratic !! There’s an element of toeing the line we’ve undoubtedly done over the years where we’ve received little in return whereas France, Germany and East European country’s citizens have benefited loads. That kind of ideological vote/policy overruling the public opinion happened with Tony Blair’s policy of inviting millions of people in from 2004.
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| silvertop Portishead 28 Jan 19 9.46am |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Sorry bud, my fail. That aside, i'm still waiting for a response from a Remainer, any one will do(!), re- the current economic situation within the bloc that they oh-so worship. TUX, there's borderline recession across the G7. Trade moves in cycles. And one of the causes of the current issue is tit-for-tat sanctions with Russia which we will presumably remain a part of after we leave. So what point exactly are you trying to make? Is it that you feel our economy is too closely tied to the EU, especially the dominant partner, Germany? After we leave, we will have spread our trade among more countries and be less dependant on and tied to the Bloc? That may well happen. Indeed, I honestly hope it does. Or, we may find that we are forced to take all our eggs from one basket and put them into another - say, Japan (also on the brink of recession - they came begging to us earlier this month, remember) or China? Hmm, I know who I would rather be tied to. Also, going from EU to worldwide will be a painfully slow process. By the time we have properly removed our EU "shackles" and become a truly global trader, the EU may well have bounced back and be booming. We will still be trading with them of course; but on less favourable terms. How will that be good for UK PLC? Just random thoughts for now. Maybe a remainer will pop up and give you a sensible response after you clarify where you are going.
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| Pussay Patrol 28 Jan 19 11.16am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
TUX, there's borderline recession across the G7. Trade moves in cycles. And one of the causes of the current issue is tit-for-tat sanctions with Russia which we will presumably remain a part of after we leave. So what point exactly are you trying to make? Is it that you feel our economy is too closely tied to the EU, especially the dominant partner, Germany? After we leave, we will have spread our trade among more countries and be less dependant on and tied to the Bloc? That may well happen. Indeed, I honestly hope it does. Or, we may find that we are forced to take all our eggs from one basket and put them into another - say, Japan (also on the brink of recession - they came begging to us earlier this month, remember) or China? Hmm, I know who I would rather be tied to. Also, going from EU to worldwide will be a painfully slow process. By the time we have properly removed our EU "shackles" and become a truly global trader, the EU may well have bounced back and be booming. We will still be trading with them of course; but on less favourable terms. How will that be good for UK PLC? Just random thoughts for now. Maybe a remainer will pop up and give you a sensible response after you clarify where you are going. Our economies are intrinsically linked whether part of the EU or not, with European wide organisations, supply chains, manufacturing , financial markets and any negative effect on neighbouring economies will be felt over here. To suggest the German or European economy suffering has no effect on us and something to celebrate is beyond stupid
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