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YT Oxford 11 Aug 24 10.53am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
A middle class leftist march stops at a Wetherspoons in Manchester to harass people having a drink and minding their own business. Why would that be? Another attack on white working class people to put up and shut up. That wasn't blatant provocation at all, was it? Good to see the police let it happen, no doubt being under orders to pounce as soon as the first Port Vale fan steps out of line.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 11.01am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
A middle class leftist march stops at a Wetherspoons in Manchester to harass people having a drink and minding their own business. Why would that be? Another attack on white working class people to put up and shut up. They don’t look very middle class to me and their political views are impossible to determine. They are as working class as the guys in the pub. They made some noise, but did nothing violent or threatening. No one was harassed. There must though have been a reason why they paused their march there. Could it be that, some at least, decided to respond to them as they passed by? There’s a lot of fist raising and chanting from people. A least one wearing a mask and another with a banner. Or was it because the guy that was speaking described themselves as “patriots”. A word that has acquired a new meaning in recent years. To portray this as an attack on the working clsss is desperate searching for anything to change the narrative. It’s not going to convince anyone other than the already convinced.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 24 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They don’t look very middle class to me and their political views are impossible to determine. They are as working class as the guys in the pub. They made some noise, but did nothing violent or threatening. No one was harassed. There must though have been a reason why they paused their march there. Could it be that, some at least, decided to respond to them as they passed by? There’s a lot of fist raising and chanting from people. A least one wearing a mask and another with a banner. Or was it because the guy that was speaking described themselves as “patriots”. A word that has acquired a new meaning in recent years. To portray this as an attack on the working clsss is desperate searching for anything to change the narrative. It’s not going to convince anyone other than the already convinced. Pure hypocrisy and defence of pro-mass migration fools. All refugees welcome. White working class beer drinkers are not. The lefties you claim are working class I bet you comprise of public sector box tickers. Average wage liberal virtue signallers who sneer at those unwilling to put up with a growing acceleration of immigration, many of whom they have no idea who they are.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 24 11.18am | |
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The liberal elite were aghast at the rise of ‘far right’ politics in Europe. There’s an obvious strategy to silence. What do they expect?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 11.29am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I normally don’t read your posts because they’re too long and waffle on about nothing really. I know she condemns the RIOTING without any caveats. She doesn’t condemn protesting. The issues working classes have is linked to the incidents recently. Why have they happened in working class areas only? Because of social media? Do us all a favour. It is your kind of view and approach which is partly to blame for ignoring these parts of the uk. It’s ok for them to take and put up with mass migration. It’s ok for them to put up with grooming gangs and harassment towards women and young girls just walking in the local area. Next it will be ok for them to go further back in the queue for social housing once this ‘scatter’ policy takes effect and they move the many thousands of single men from hotels and into one and two bedroom flats. You look at people beneath you and think they should absorb the negatives, while you observe from afar, turning a blind eye to the real effects of policies that nobody voted for yet ruin communities and further mistrust of government. Not only that but they aren’t able to think for themselves or join the dots together and only form an opinion once someone on Tik Tok or X or Facebook tells them to. Well I have news for you. I think it’s something like 40 odd percent agree with the grievances of protesters and 30% think they should be happening. They aren’t all being instructed in how to think by a few people on social media. They come to their own conclusions which you can’t stand because the reasons are true, not misinformation. I rarely read all you post as so much is the same old drivel. As with above, so if I have missed a pearl of wisdom, unlikely though it is, please excuse me. No one condemns protests. We have not seen protests in the last week. We have seen riots. Trying to excuse them as protests won’t convince anyone. I’d like to know where you get your 30% and 40% claims from? Other than from an over emotional imagination. The only survey I have seen is this one, which tells a very different story:-
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The liberal elite were aghast at the rise of ‘far right’ politics in Europe. There’s an obvious strategy to silence. What do they expect? Nonsense. No one is or will be silenced, unless they break the law. Laws that are made by elected governments. Engagement with controversial ideas is welcomed so they be defeated by better ideas. Trying to force ideas on people via direct action will be resisted.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 24 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I rarely read all you post as so much is the same old drivel. As with above, so if I have missed a pearl of wisdom, unlikely though it is, please excuse me. No one condemns protests. We have not seen protests in the last week. We have seen riots. Trying to excuse them as protests won’t convince anyone. I’d like to know where you get your 30% and 40% claims from? Other than from an over emotional imagination. The only survey I have seen is this one, which tells a very different story:- You should read the material you reference first. It’s even in bold for you and roughly what I originally said. ‘Only one in three Britons support the recent protests, with the riots receiving overwhelming opposition’ Only one in three. ONLY. ONLY one in 3 disagrees with mass or uncontrolled immigration. Only 1 in 3. Not that many.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 24 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I rarely read all you post as so much is the same old drivel. Irony klaxon. When I open up this thread and I see a handful of pages to get through, it surprises me it takes about 5 minutes, after scrolling through the thread where 80% of the pages are your lecturing waffle. Sometimes I might read something that’s short and concise, rather than a wall of text, but that’s very rare now.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Aug 24 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You should read the material you reference first. It’s even in bold for you and roughly what I originally said. ‘Only one in three Britons support the recent protests, with the riots receiving overwhelming opposition’ Only one in three. ONLY. ONLY one in 3 disagrees with mass or uncontrolled immigration. Only 1 in 3. Not that many. And most people are afraid to sound racist, so that figure is higher. Polls showed the majority of British people opposed immigration before the elections. This is from one of Wisbech's links:
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 24 12.04pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
And most people are afraid to sound racist, so that figure is higher. Polls showed the majority of British people opposed immigration before the elections. This is from one of Wisbech's links: Oh, what you’ve linked was originally a Wisbech link? Interesting. Here: ‘Overall views are divided in Britain. In April 2023, 52% thought that immigration numbers should be reduced. The level of opposition varies by the type of question, and fewer people (32%) said that immigration was a bad or very bad thing.’ Remember, it’s ONLY 1 in 3. Half think it should be reduced? So what? Speed it up by processing those who’d fail before.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 24 12.13pm | |
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Somalian "asylum seeker" who arrived in Ireland 2 weeks ago says a lawyer is helping to bring his wife and 7 children to Ireland. As of 30/11/23 the top 5 nationalities of those who have applied for asylum in Ireland during 2023 are : 1 - Nigeria
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YT Oxford 11 Aug 24 12.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They don’t look very middle class to me and their political views are impossible to determine. They are as working class as the guys in the pub. They made some noise, but did nothing violent or threatening. No one was harassed. There must though have been a reason why they paused their march there. Could it be that, some at least, decided to respond to them as they passed by? There’s a lot of fist raising and chanting from people. A least one wearing a mask and another with a banner. Or was it because the guy that was speaking described themselves as “patriots”. A word that has acquired a new meaning in recent years. To portray this as an attack on the working clsss is desperate searching for anything to change the narrative. It’s not going to convince anyone other than the already convinced. Socialist Worker posters are being waved for f*** sake. Next you'll be saying that it's impossible to determine the footballing allegiance of the person waving a Port Vale flag.
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