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 EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 20 Feb 24 11.03am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Whereas you of course do not make every other post on this thread a portrayal of any of Israel's actions as 'atrocities'. This is a war and you support one side and I support the other. As Orwell said: "Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to examine the evidence." A lot of Israel’s actions are atrocities - that’s not a portrayal, it’s reality. They’ve killed over 30,000 people in 4 months, including thousands of children. This is not a war and I don’t support a ‘side’. I support peace and any efforts to achieve that. You support the massacring of civilians. I know you like an Orwell quote but it’s just crowbarring and far more applicable to yourself than it is to me - Hamas committed atrocities on Oct 7th, I have condemned that numerous times on this thread. I am not aware of you doing anything close to that when discussing Israel.
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Feb 24 11.07am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, if our intelligence services were the CIA we would have just armed and funded the unionist forces. There was little need for our troops to be there. But you know the British....happy to die out and lose because we are nice people (in reality virtue signalling people) or something like that. All while being hated and gamed by parasites feasting on our national corpse. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2024 8.22am) I think we did, at least early on.
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Feb 24 11.09am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Have the Israelis paraded the naked bodies of dead girls, that they have raped, on the back of open trucks as their civilians spit on the corpse and cheer? Edited by georgenorman (20 Feb 2024 8.16am) Are you really holding the Israeli government and Hamas to the same moral standard?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Feb 24 11.12am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Are you really holding the Israeli government and Hamas to the same moral standard? So you think that Hamas deserve some slack because they are terrorists? Come on.
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Feb 24 11.16am |
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[quote=bright&wright;3858605] Ahh yes the old 'a small minority' claim when it was literally hundreds of them and they got almost universal support from Gaza for their actions and in many quarters of the Islamic world (the rest just stayed silent) as killing and raping women and children was deemed acceptable in the name of 'freedom'. I fully expect your next sentence to be "I don't support the IRA but....". ...out of "literally" 4 + million. If you watch the loons cheering on the streets of Cairo, Islamabad or Tehran and take that as "universal support" for the acts, then you are misguided. I suspect the vast majority - while being naturally aligned to Palestinians - will consider the acts of Oct 7 to be barbaric and not Islamic. The problem is that the ultra right Israeli government has fallen completely into Hamas' trap (as they had no hope of avoiding). It is their acts that have now galvanized the Islamic world in "universal support" for the millions of Palestinians. Don't confuse the two.
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Feb 24 11.18am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So you think that Hamas deserve some slack because they are terrorists? Come on. Did I say that?
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| georgenorman 20 Feb 24 11.48am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Did I say that? Yes, that's clearly the meaning of what you said. The apologist (if not outright supporter) for Islamic terrorism, Danns, often says it too.
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| georgenorman 20 Feb 24 11.52am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
A lot of Israel’s actions are atrocities - that’s not a portrayal, it’s reality. They’ve killed over 30,000 people in 4 months, including thousands of children. This is not a war and I don’t support a ‘side’. I support peace and any efforts to achieve that. You support the massacring of civilians. I know you like an Orwell quote but it’s just crowbarring and far more applicable to yourself than it is to me - Hamas committed atrocities on Oct 7th, I have condemned that numerous times on this thread. I am not aware of you doing anything close to that when discussing Israel. Of course it is a war. Civilians get killed in wars but they are not deliberately targeted - unlike the atrocities your chums that you support.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Feb 24 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Of course it is a war. Civilians get killed in wars but they are not deliberately targeted - unlike the atrocities your chums that you support. How many Israelis have died in this 'war' since October 8th? To suggest Israel is not targeting civilians is another demonstrable lie.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Feb 24 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Yes, that's clearly the meaning of what you said. The apologist (if not outright supporter) for Islamic terrorism, Danns, often says it too. Another lie... at least you can now see why I called you a liar.
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| georgenorman 20 Feb 24 12.15pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
How many Israelis have died in this 'war' since October 8th? To suggest Israel is not targeting civilians is another demonstrable lie. The war started on 7th October when around 1,200 Israeli civilians were raped, tortured and killed, along with around 250 hostages taken. Israel has been very open about it's next actions, warning civilians to leave areas they intend to attack.
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| georgenorman 20 Feb 24 12.19pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Another lie... at least you can now see why I called you a liar. People merely need to read your posts to make a judgement on that.
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