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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
They have to be given a reason. Incentivise or penalise. I'd like to think that the Labour Party or the civil service have people clever enough to find a way but the evidence is not encouraging. The more important question is, when will they drastically cut immigration? We do not need to build any new homes. There, I’ve said it…
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
We do not need to build any new homes. There, I’ve said it… Repurposing is a great idea. Although I think it's probably insanely complex to implement and would cost significant amounts of money to realise (mainly political admin and legislatorial process) Building more homes to boost the economy is not exclusive to Labour. And whilst no-one wants to see countryside destroyed, 90% of it (in England, 98% in Scotland) is still very much undeveloped. Edited by SW19 CPFC (18 Jul 2024 1.04pm)
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When you hear leftists talking, they don't want to acknowledge the absurdity of struggling with a housing shortage on one hand and then justifying mass immigration on the other. What is the point of any policy for housing when the problem is being made unfixable.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
When you hear leftists talking, they don't want to acknowledge the absurdity of struggling with a housing shortage on one hand and then justifying mass immigration on the other. What is the point of any policy for housing when the problem is being made unfixable. There is certainly a cognitive dissonance to it. We will see....they have their opportunity. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2024 1.30pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There is certainly a cognitive dissonance to it. We will see....they have their opportunity. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2024 1.30pm) It’s a similar cognitive dissonance to people who want to drastically reduce immigration with no mention of the enormous public sector job vacancies nor the ageing population and decline in birth rates, I guess.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It’s a similar cognitive dissonance to people who want to drastically reduce immigration with no mention of the enormous public sector job vacancies nor the ageing population and decline in birth rates, I guess. I've been advocating for women to be incentivised to have more children for years. Of course, there is a problem with filling jobs, but a large chunk of the workforce is doing nothing.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It’s a similar cognitive dissonance to people who want to drastically reduce immigration with no mention of the enormous public sector job vacancies nor the ageing population and decline in birth rates, I guess. Not to me. I'm well aware that to change the neoliberal project Europe has engaged on will come with transitional pain. People chose centralism for the easy life, things have to be really bad before they ever turn to the left or right who will actually change things properly...it has to be really bad. Regardless, to stay the centralist path means economic collapse anyway...personally I predict before the end of the decade. That collapse will make 2008 look like a picnic. Welfare and benefits will be like Greece. It's going to be wild and extremely painful. In truth that's the real left and right's chance. Until then whoever is in charge until then will be forced by the system to fall into line to a large extent....You have seen it with Meloni in Italy and Wilders in Denmark...Le Pen has compromised too. Until the neoliberalism superstructure changes significantly nothing really changes.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
A lot of big developers are not acquiring land or buying in London at the moment, certainly in zones 1-2. The appetite from overseas for off-plan property investments in London has reduced drastically (a lot of that driven by the high lending rates) but also the lack of appreciation in the last 5 or so years. Go back to 2016, and a developer could launch a new scheme in Singapore or Hong Kong and have it sold out in 24hrs. Now most high-end developments in London are completing with huge amounts unsold. Without overseas clients overpaying for flats, there is a lot less appetite from the traditional big developers to build and most are looking for new revenue streams. So on that front I think it's possible that this works - as others have said, the key to it is ensuring the end result includes the quotas for social and affordable housing.
Interesting
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I've been advocating for women to be incentivised to have more children for years. Of course, there is a problem with filling jobs, but a large chunk of the workforce is doing nothing. Fair enough, but those are all fairly long term fixes and would not reduce our reliance on immigration for many years. You will always have a chunk of the workforce doing nothing.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Fair enough, but those are all fairly long term fixes and would not reduce our reliance on immigration for many years. You will always have a chunk of the workforce doing nothing. Granted, but all the time we rely on imported labour, nothing will be done to fix the long term problem. Work towards solving the problem now. Stop the short term fixes. If businesses only survive by hiring migrants, then let them go under. What good do they serve in the bigger picture?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
When you hear leftists talking, they don't want to acknowledge the absurdity of struggling with a housing shortage on one hand and then justifying mass immigration on the other. What is the point of any policy for housing when the problem is being made unfixable. When you hear conspiracy theory proponents talking they don’t want to acknowledge the absurdity of struggling with a housing shortage by pretending that immigration is to blame. Workers are needed or the economy fails. Whether those workers come from increased birth rates at home, or from abroad, they need housing. What needs fixing is the number of us who could work, but choose not to. It wouldn’t solve the problem but it would help reduce the demand for overseas workers.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Repurposing is a great idea. Although I think it's probably insanely complex to implement and would cost significant amounts of money to realise (mainly political admin and legislatorial process) Building more homes to boost the economy is not exclusive to Labour. And whilst no-one wants to see countryside destroyed, 90% of it (in England, 98% in Scotland) is still very much undeveloped. Edited by SW19 CPFC (18 Jul 2024 1.04pm) I don’t think it would be that complicated to bring back disused dwellings. Incentives are all that are needed. Whether that is by way of council tax increases on vacant properties or grants to make properties suitable for renting. I know some councils have used cpos to bring some housing back into use.
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