What rot.

America and Britain are the most powerful military forces in Western Europe. That has not changed due to Brexit.

My wife and I put up before this was announced.

We want to help regardless of the cost. Women and children are suffering while their men fight for their country. I don't give a flying if it costs me a few quid. I will give up a few luxury's. Beer, takeaways, going to restaurants.

They will also get £40/week/person for themselves.

I agree about large empty buildings. They have just built a huge nightingale at William Harvey hospital, Ashford kent. That is not going to be needed (at the moment). It could probably house around 500.

Edited by The groover (13 Mar 2022 11.54pm)

Describing people as scumbags because they dare to try and find a better life for themselves and their families.. stay classy.

Agreed & apologise for the scumbag part, but the main jist of that is true. None or hardly any of them are staying in their own country to fight & the ones that do should be given preference over the ones that aren't.
As for 'trying to find a better life for themselves & their families' do what millions of the rest of have done & do it legally.

Pro USA & Israel

I've been looking at some interior pictures of a captured Russian T-80bvm

And being a bit of a tank nerd I thought I would share what I have found here.

The T-80BVM is allegedly a modern Russian main battle tank that has seen upgrades as recently as 2015 although I'm struggling to see where the money has been spent.

There is absolutely no spalling protection inside the tank.
This can be made up of layers of steel causing fragments to tumble & slow down with each impact, more modern protection would be kevlar, there's stuff beyond this but can't remember the name.

This might go someway as to explain why we see so many decapitated Russian tanks (turret seperating from the Hull).
Modern anti tank shells/rockets etc don't necessarily need to penetrate the tank to disable it, they simply need to hit the armor where the energy of the impact is then transferred inside causing fragments of the armor to break off (spalling) & bounce around inside at hypersonic speed - I'll let you have a guess what that can do to a tank crew...
Couple this with the Russian doctrine of carousel auto loaders where explosive shells circle the crew, the odds of these fragments igniting a shell is highly likely.
Russia clearly favours explosive armor on the outside of the tank however what we have seen is it is useless vs modern anti tank weapons.

The commanders sight has no thermal imaging & limited night vision capability which relies on infa red light to see where he is going, we're talking 1940's tech here, you can buy a set of Gen 1 nods online for about £500 this is effectively the same as these tank commanders are using in battle.
Also seeing as the commander needs to flood the way ahead with ir light to see where he is going/hunting targets it paints a huge target on the back of the tank for any opposing force that happens to also own a set of nods.

The fire control system has been upgraded however its still years behind our Challenger 2 MBT & were replacing chally 2 with chally 3 in the next few years.

All in all Russia have spent quite a bit of money turning the s*** T-80BV into a slightly less s*** T-80BVM with really only an upgraded poweplant, upgraded fire control system & ineffective explosive armor to show for it.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (14 Mar 2022 3.32pm)

The mountains are calling & I must go.

off the top of my head range is approx 200 miles before running dry.