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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Dec 19 7.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Don’t I bloody know it

Ha....yeah, sometimes life is a lot like having the option of the girlfriend with the one t1t or the girlfriend with the one leg.

Which do you prefer....the one tit or the one leg.

I'll admit to rather liking Johnson's t1t....but it's still a solitary t1t......All regarded in a completely manly manner you understand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Dec 2019 7.37pm)

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 04 Dec 19 10.16pm

CON 42% (-1) LAB 32% (-1) LD 12% (-1) Other 15% (+4) 2nd - 3rd Dec (changes from Savanta ComRes/Sunday Telegraph, Nov 30th)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Dec 19 7.54am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

CON 42% (-1) LAB 32% (-1) LD 12% (-1) Other 15% (+4) 2nd - 3rd Dec (changes from Savanta ComRes/Sunday Telegraph, Nov 30th)

The last few pools seem to suggest that Labour's improvement has stalled assuming they are right. Labour are going to have to pull off a miracle or find something major on Johnson to close the gap.

Still all to play for.

 


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W12 05 Dec 19 8.46am

The fact that the Tories are not communists is almost the only good thing you can say about them. That doesn't apply to Labour, The Lib Fems, the fake Jocks, the unspellable Welsh or the Watermelons.

There are plenty of parties that are not communist but are not getting any form of platform.

What a mess.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Dec 19 8.53am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

So Corbyn was caught out in a lie it's quite clear he doesn't watch the Queens speech.

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I have to admit I don't either so does it matter? normally no. However Corbyn and Labour have made it a campaign issue that you can't trust Boris he is a liar and the public should trust Uncle Jeremy he's on your side and tells it as it is.


And of course that's why it does matter, if you make character part of the election it does tend to rebound. Remember John Major and his "back to basics" the media loved showing up every lying and cheating Tory MP.

Interestingly the New Statesmen a Labour publication to its roots has decided not to back Corbyn. You don't expect the Times to back him but when "your own" won't you are in trouble. "Unfit to be Prime Minister is pretty damming.

Meanwhile Boris dodged a bullet with Trump who for once didn't put his foot in it over the election. I would imagine Boris will be relived it was noticeable how he swerved Trump at every opportunity probably petrified that Trump might "help" his campaigning.

So for Boris it's steady as she goes over the next 7 days and just make sure the Tory vote gets out.

As for Swinson she going down faster than the Titanic. That's the problem when you make the election about the leader rather than the party. She doesn't look like a winner more a whinger. This election was a great opportunity for Lib Dems to hoover up the Labour remain vote but they have blown it big time and they may have less MPs than the won in 2017, certainly less MPs than when parliament broke up.

Still all to play for.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Dec 19 9.01am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by W12

The fact that the Tories are not communists is almost the only good thing you can say about them. That doesn't apply to Labour, The Lib Fems, the fake Jocks, the unspellable Welsh or the Watermelons.

There are plenty of parties that are not communist but are not getting any form of platform.

What a mess.

I was stuck in hospital yesterday had a nice chat with a follow patient who was of Nigerian origin and lives in a Labour stronghold. She shocked me when she said she voted Brexit and would be voting Tory because Labour are a bunch of liars. Only one person but at least this lady was doing her own thinking, which brings me to my point.

Labour rely heavily on the immigrant vote and love to play racial politics but are they taking this group for granted. I have no evidence for this but I wonder if newly arrived vote Labour but as they establish themselves and start to move up the economic ladder maybe "some" decide they want to hold onto more of what they have earned, are they the shy Tories?

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Dec 19 9.38am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I was stuck in hospital yesterday had a nice chat with a follow patient who was of Nigerian origin and lives in a Labour stronghold. She shocked me when she said she voted Brexit and would be voting Tory because Labour are a bunch of liars. Only one person but at least this lady was doing her own thinking, which brings me to my point.

Labour rely heavily on the immigrant vote and love to play racial politics but are they taking this group for granted. I have no evidence for this but I wonder if newly arrived vote Labour but as they establish themselves and start to move up the economic ladder maybe "some" decide they want to hold onto more of what they have earned, are they the shy Tories?

Yep. And drawing the drawbridge up on immigration. I have the same suspicion as you with most (successful) Jews in Britain, and Asians. I remember one Asian girl who you’d think was part of the US Tea Party politics.

Answer. Have more immigration. Keep inviting more and more and more people. Lots of them. Open the doors to immigration even more, after plenty of your core vote told you not to.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Dec 19 9.54am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Who has employees to pay after corbyn has taxed him naked.
Some people just dont get how bad it will be under labour.
I sort of accepted Blair and Miliband but these new breed are f***ing out there man.

You’ve already admitted you don’t read manifestos and vote Tory every election regardless - how are you able to make predictions about how bad it will be under Labour? What Labour tax policies are you referring to above?

 

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W12 05 Dec 19 10.24am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You’ve already admitted you don’t read manifestos and vote Tory every election regardless - how are you able to make predictions about how bad it will be under Labour? What Labour tax policies are you referring to above?

Unsurpringly there is very little in the Labour manifesto about tax but I found this summary:

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The main point here is that most of the tax rises here will hit the same people and those people are already paying the lions share of tax.

A s*** load of them will just leave the UK and the tax rises will start to hit the middle and lower income workers.

That's how socialism works (or doesn't)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Dec 19 10.38am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I'm borrowing a joke from Blackadder.

The Labour Party manifesto is the great piece of fiction since the French included fidelity in the the marriage vows.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Dec 19 10.57am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Unsurpringly there is very little in the Labour manifesto about tax but I found this summary:

[Link]

The main point here is that most of the tax rises here will hit the same people and those people are already paying the lions share of tax.

A s*** load of them will just leave the UK and the tax rises will start to hit the middle and lower income workers.

That's how socialism works (or doesn't)

We’ll see - I’m not against an increase in tax for higher earners as long as it’s managed properly. The super rich may well leave the country but that whole bracket of people earning around £80-100k a year aren’t going to up and run for the sake of a couple hundred quid a year.

You don’t have to turn to pure socialism to re-dress the balance slightly, which is something I agree needs doing.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (05 Dec 2019 10.58am)

 

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W12 05 Dec 19 11.17am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

We’ll see - I’m not against an increase in tax for higher earners as long as it’s managed properly. The super rich may well leave the country but that whole bracket of people earning around £80-100k a year aren’t going to up and run for the sake of a couple hundred quid a year.

You don’t have to turn to pure socialism to re-dress the balance slightly, which is something I agree needs doing.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (05 Dec 2019 10.58am)

"that whole bracket of people earning around £80-100k a year aren’t going to up and run for the sake of a couple hundred quid a year"

Yeah, f*** the people who are working their arses off and already pay £40% tax. Let them pay for more immigrants while watching their country go to s***.

 

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