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Painter Croydon 13 Sep 18 1.36pm
This HF group has positioned themselves as an elitist bunch, who expect the club to move longstanding season tickets holders out of their seats. For years the club has positioned itself as a family club and is acting in the best interests of the fans. People who support this elitist approach by the HF are misguided, it’s nothing to do with building an atmosphere, it’s about them attempting to show superiority over other fans. If they got their way, where would it stop, other fans would then demand they get moved to a better position in the ground, as a precedent would of been set.
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Croydon 13 Sep 18 1.36pm

This HF group has positioned themselves as an elitist bunch, who expect the club to move longstanding season tickets holders out of their seats.
For years the club has positioned itself as a family club and is acting in the best interests of the fans.
People who support this elitist approach by the HF are misguided, it’s nothing to do with building an atmosphere, it’s about them attempting to show superiority over other fans.
If they got their way, where would it stop, other fans would then demand they get moved to a better position in the ground, as a precedent would of been set.

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dorking 13 Sep 18 3.05pm
[Link] Doesn't look elitist IMO. Looks like multiple supporters groups backing the inclusive proposal. 2K people liked the HF statement on twitter Nearly 5k signed the petition. I have to admire the HF's determination to not give up with this. I hope the club will take notice and investigate what is feasible, bearing in mind people have come forward and said they would be willing to move to help make it happen.
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13 Sep 18 3.05pm

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Doesn't look elitist IMO. Looks like multiple supporters groups backing the inclusive proposal.

2K people liked the HF statement on twitter

Nearly 5k signed the petition.

I have to admire the HF's determination to not give up with this.

I hope the club will take notice and investigate what is feasible, bearing in mind people have come forward and said they would be willing to move to help make it happen.

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Midlands Eagle 13 Sep 18 3.30pm
Originally posted by dorking Doesn't look elitist IMO. Looks like multiple supporters groups backing the inclusive proposal. 2K people liked the HF statement on twitter Nearly 5k signed the petition. They need quite a few more to catch up with the 320,000 who signed the petition to abolish the tampon tax. As a matter of interest I wonder how many of the nearly 5,000 were genuine Palace supporters and of them I wonder how many signed it multiple times
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Originally posted by dorking

Doesn't look elitist IMO. Looks like multiple supporters groups backing the inclusive proposal.

2K people liked the HF statement on twitter

Nearly 5k signed the petition.

They need quite a few more to catch up with the 320,000 who signed the petition to abolish the tampon tax.

As a matter of interest I wonder how many of the nearly 5,000 were genuine Palace supporters and of them I wonder how many signed it multiple times

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dorking 13 Sep 18 3.59pm
Do Palace fans have to do an official march up the Holmesdale Road before you believe that thousands are in favour of this?
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13 Sep 18 3.59pm

Do Palace fans have to do an official march up the Holmesdale Road before you believe that thousands are in favour of this?

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chris123 hove actually 13 Sep 18 4.13pm
Originally posted by dorking [Link] Doesn't look elitist IMO. Looks like multiple supporters groups backing the inclusive proposal. 2K people liked the HF statement on twitter Nearly 5k signed the petition. I have to admire the HF's determination to not give up with this. I hope the club will take notice and investigate what is feasible, bearing in mind people have come forward and said they would be willing to move to help make it happen. If it isn't, then why should anyone else move. You can have a million likes - but if season ticket holders don't want to move, I'm not sure want else you expect short of forcing.
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hove actually 13 Sep 18 4.13pm

Originally posted by dorking

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Doesn't look elitist IMO. Looks like multiple supporters groups backing the inclusive proposal.

2K people liked the HF statement on twitter

Nearly 5k signed the petition.

I have to admire the HF's determination to not give up with this.

I hope the club will take notice and investigate what is feasible, bearing in mind people have come forward and said they would be willing to move to help make it happen.

If it isn't, then why should anyone else move. You can have a million likes - but if season ticket holders don't want to move, I'm not sure want else you expect short of forcing.

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CPFCDAN Hackbridge 13 Sep 18 4.16pm
Originally posted by chris123 If it isn't, then why should anyone else move. You can have a million likes - but if season ticket holders don't want to move, I'm not sure want else you expect short of forcing. The whole point of the site linked in your post is for fans all over the ground to voice their support for the switch, including those who currently have season tickets in Block E. If 200-300 of them are happy to move, will the club act? That's the overall aim. Hopkin Looking To Curl One: [Link] Follow HLTCO On Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Hackbridge 13 Sep 18 4.16pm

Originally posted by chris123

If it isn't, then why should anyone else move. You can have a million likes - but if season ticket holders don't want to move, I'm not sure want else you expect short of forcing.

The whole point of the site linked in your post is for fans all over the ground to voice their support for the switch, including those who currently have season tickets in Block E.

If 200-300 of them are happy to move, will the club act? That's the overall aim.

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Spitfire Biggin Hill 13 Sep 18 4.30pm
I was watching the DVD of our promotion season last night.It occurred to me how times have changed in the last 5 years and perhaps all our memories have faded a little on what things used to be like. Pitch with real grass and bare patches in goalmouths No electronic advertising on pitch perimeter Plenty of empty seats in main stand. Bolasie, Wilf, Ward, Jedi all playing so not that long ago. Great crowd atmosphere everywhere because we were winning most home games. No visible sign of HF in the corner of the Holmesdale on celebrations, no flags, no banners, looks to be just regular fans. My point is that the atmosphere was great without HF visibility and that flags, drums etc are a relatively recent thing. Perhaps the HF haven't been quite as influential for as long as some have portrayed on here. Can you still have a good atmosphere without such formally organised groups as long as the team are winning?
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Biggin Hill 13 Sep 18 4.30pm

I was watching the DVD of our promotion season last night.It occurred to me how times have changed in the last 5 years and perhaps all our memories have faded a little on what things used to be like.

Pitch with real grass and bare patches in goalmouths
No electronic advertising on pitch perimeter
Plenty of empty seats in main stand.
Bolasie, Wilf, Ward, Jedi all playing so not that long ago.
Great crowd atmosphere everywhere because we were winning most home games.
No visible sign of HF in the corner of the Holmesdale on celebrations, no flags, no banners, looks to be just regular fans.

My point is that the atmosphere was great without HF visibility and that flags, drums etc are a relatively recent thing. Perhaps the HF haven't been quite as influential for as long as some have portrayed on here. Can you still have a good atmosphere without such formally organised groups as long as the team are winning?

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CPFCDAN Hackbridge 13 Sep 18 4.33pm
The Fanatics have been an active presence at Selhurst for 13 years and were definitely a constant force throughout that promotion season. This video is from Cariff at home in 2012. [Link] Hopkin Looking To Curl One: [Link] Follow HLTCO On Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Hackbridge 13 Sep 18 4.33pm

The Fanatics have been an active presence at Selhurst for 13 years and were definitely a constant force throughout that promotion season.

This video is from Cariff at home in 2012.

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Spiderman Horsham 13 Sep 18 4.37pm
Originally posted by Willo As per the club statement : "News of the proposal leaked out and we received a large number of written and verbal objections from supporters in the area that would have been affected. Many of those supporters writing to us pointed out that they had been in their seats since the stand opened and were strongly opposed to what they saw as them being forced out of their seats" The club felt that it would have been not only disruptive but very unfair to forcibly move long-standing season-ticket holders out of their seats to accommodate the HF, besides this would have generated ill-feeling towards the fanatics. Edited by Willo (12 Sep 2018 6.33pm) I know this! but did they ASK them before the leak? I think not.
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Horsham 13 Sep 18 4.37pm

Originally posted by Willo

As per the club statement :

"News of the proposal leaked out and we received a large number of written and verbal objections from supporters in the area that would have been affected. Many of those supporters writing to us pointed out that they had been in their seats since the stand opened and were strongly opposed to what they saw as them being forced out of their seats"

The club felt that it would have been not only disruptive but very unfair to forcibly move long-standing season-ticket holders out of their seats to accommodate the HF, besides this would have generated ill-feeling towards the fanatics.

Edited by Willo (12 Sep 2018 6.33pm)

I know this! but did they ASK them before the leak? I think not.

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becky over the moon 13 Sep 18 5.08pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I know this! but did they ASK them before the leak? I think not. Perhaps they were first trying to establish whether such a move would adversely impinge on the ground's safety certificate, without which no-one would get to see any bl**dy football at all! Would seem a sensible thing to before asking the fans. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 13 Sep 18 5.08pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I know this! but did they ASK them before the leak? I think not.

Perhaps they were first trying to establish whether such a move would adversely impinge on the ground's safety certificate, without which no-one would get to see any bl**dy football at all! Would seem a sensible thing to before asking the fans.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Midlands Eagle 13 Sep 18 5.09pm
Originally posted by dorking Do Palace fans have to do an official march up the Holmesdale Road before you believe that thousands are in favour of this? It's unfortunate then that thousands are allegedly in favour of this but just not the ones that need to be booted out of their seats to accommodate the HF's requirements
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13 Sep 18 5.09pm

Originally posted by dorking

Do Palace fans have to do an official march up the Holmesdale Road before you believe that thousands are in favour of this?

It's unfortunate then that thousands are allegedly in favour of this but just not the ones that need to be booted out of their seats to accommodate the HF's requirements

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CPFCDAN Hackbridge 13 Sep 18 5.15pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle It's unfortunate then that thousands are allegedly in favour of this but just not the ones that need to be booted out of their seats to accommodate the HF's requirements There's been no transparent was of knowing that until now in fairness. Hopkin Looking To Curl One: [Link] Follow HLTCO On Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Hackbridge 13 Sep 18 5.15pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's unfortunate then that thousands are allegedly in favour of this but just not the ones that need to be booted out of their seats to accommodate the HF's requirements

There's been no transparent was of knowing that until now in fairness.

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