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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 6.57pm
Originally posted by cryrst It was an article on a news website which quoted the judge. You are deflecting from the original question. Ok, it would be nice to know which one so it could also be read and any comments they make be put into context. However, if the quote was complete, and not edited, you will know that what I said was true. Did you ask a question? I don’t recall one! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 6.57pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It was an article on a news website which quoted the judge.
You are deflecting from the original question.

Ok, it would be nice to know which one so it could also be read and any comments they make be put into context. However, if the quote was complete, and not edited, you will know that what I said was true.

Did you ask a question? I don’t recall one!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 10 Aug 24 7.07pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I disagree with your opinion that it’s unnecessarily to state it when you follow it up with your next claim. A claim that tends to confirm what I, the government, the law courts, the media and almost everyone else have been saying. Which is this did not “result” from what happened in Southport. It resulted from right wing influencers encouraging it, by spreading disinformation and hatred. The timing of an event and the reasons for it are totally unrelated. The reason was that malign actors jumped on the opportunity that the terrible tragedy in Southport gave them. If it wasn’t that, it would have been something else. They wound people up by using misinformation and xenophobia, initially posting out and out lies. Now we do know a little more about the accused, but still have no idea what twisted logic motivated him. I have no outrage at all about any personal impact. Where do you get such a crazy idea from? There is no personal impact. My concerns are about us as a whole. I always value an objective enquiry, looking at everything in the round and learning the lessons. My remarks were directed more at those who always rush to judgement and dismiss enquiries, just as many did when following the goading of the influencers and those here who defended them. Of course some situations cannot await an enquiry. If people are creating chaos then they must be stopped, arrested, charged and if found guilty given punishments that deter others. Can't await an enquiry while other occasions can await police intervention in an ongoing series of crimes. Great. Are all protests are motivated by malign outside influences? Probably not. Manchester, Rochdale, London Bridge, 7/7, etc were followed by candle lit vigils and songs. Maybe Southport was the tipping point. I stand by the claim that concentrating on this one issue is distracting attention from the original event.
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Teddy Eagle

10 Aug 24 7.07pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I disagree with your opinion that it’s unnecessarily to state it when you follow it up with your next claim. A claim that tends to confirm what I, the government, the law courts, the media and almost everyone else have been saying.

Which is this did not “result” from what happened in Southport. It resulted from right wing influencers encouraging it, by spreading disinformation and hatred.

The timing of an event and the reasons for it are totally unrelated. The reason was that malign actors jumped on the opportunity that the terrible tragedy in Southport gave them. If it wasn’t that, it would have been something else. They wound people up by using misinformation and xenophobia, initially posting out and out lies. Now we do know a little more about the accused, but still have no idea what twisted logic motivated him.

I have no outrage at all about any personal impact. Where do you get such a crazy idea from? There is no personal impact. My concerns are about us as a whole.

I always value an objective enquiry, looking at everything in the round and learning the lessons. My remarks were directed more at those who always rush to judgement and dismiss enquiries, just as many did when following the goading of the influencers and those here who defended them.

Of course some situations cannot await an enquiry. If people are creating chaos then they must be stopped, arrested, charged and if found guilty given punishments that deter others.

Can't await an enquiry while other occasions can await police intervention in an ongoing series of crimes. Great.
Are all protests are motivated by malign outside influences? Probably not. Manchester, Rochdale, London Bridge, 7/7, etc were followed by candle lit vigils and songs. Maybe Southport was the tipping point.
I stand by the claim that concentrating on this one issue is distracting attention from the original event.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 7.20pm
Originally posted by NJ CLOCKTOWER I find it amusing or depressing that narcissistic abuse is allowed on this site. As a person who has a PHD on the subject. The scenario of me getting a yellow card for ousting a narcissist is quite normal. If not sad but normal. I hope the decision is reversed for the sake decent debate. Giving these people any sort of support is vile. Edited by NJ CLOCKTOWER (10 Aug 2024 1.08pm) If you truly have PhD on the subject you will know that no psychiatric disorder can ever be diagnosed without an extensive personal examination. This came to public attention a few years back when a group of psychiatrists wanted to issue a diagnosis of the sitting President and their official society refused them permission to do so on the grounds that no examinations had taken place. I presume you are directing the accusation at me, parroting similar ones from another clever dick online expert. I think it is highly improbable that any psychiatrist would consider me narcissistic, but I of course know the real me much better than anyone here, who only know an online persona. [Link] [Link] That’s not me! I think you, and others are simply confused. I am confident and determined for sure, but not the least bit seeking admiration! If I was I wouldn’t be here would I! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 7.20pm

Originally posted by NJ CLOCKTOWER

I find it amusing or depressing that narcissistic abuse is allowed on this site.
As a person who has a PHD on the subject. The scenario of me getting a yellow card for ousting a narcissist is quite normal. If not sad but normal.
I hope the decision is reversed for the sake decent debate.
Giving these people any sort of support is vile.

Edited by NJ CLOCKTOWER (10 Aug 2024 1.08pm)

If you truly have PhD on the subject you will know that no psychiatric disorder can ever be diagnosed without an extensive personal examination.

This came to public attention a few years back when a group of psychiatrists wanted to issue a diagnosis of the sitting President and their official society refused them permission to do so on the grounds that no examinations had taken place.

I presume you are directing the accusation at me, parroting similar ones from another clever dick online expert.

I think it is highly improbable that any psychiatrist would consider me narcissistic, but I of course know the real me much better than anyone here, who only know an online persona.

[Link]

That’s not me!

I think you, and others are simply confused.

I am confident and determined for sure, but not the least bit seeking admiration! If I was I wouldn’t be here would I!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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XKudu The Midlands, England 10 Aug 24 7.31pm
How do I block someone on this site so I don’t need to read their posts?
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XKudu

The Midlands, England 10 Aug 24 7.31pm

How do I block someone on this site so I don’t need to read their posts?

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Stirlingsays 10 Aug 24 7.43pm
Even if they could diagnose it no one's making an extensive personal examination of my clever dick. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 Aug 24 7.43pm

Even if they could diagnose it no one's making an extensive personal examination of my clever dick.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 10 Aug 24 7.50pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Ok, it would be nice to know which one so it could also be read and any comments they make be put into context. However, if the quote was complete, and not edited, you will know that what I said was true. Did you ask a question? I don’t recall one! It’s an age thing and you could easily look back so don’t play silly games.
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The garden of England 10 Aug 24 7.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did you ask a question? I don’t recall one!

It’s an age thing and you could easily look back so don’t play silly games.

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Stirlingsays 10 Aug 24 7.53pm
I must admit, that's a damn funny and true meme during this dark time. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 Aug 24 7.53pm

I must admit, that's a damn funny and true meme during this dark time.

[Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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becky over the moon 10 Aug 24 8.12pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Even if they could diagnose it no one's making an extensive personal examination of my clever dick. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 10 Aug 24 8.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Even if they could diagnose it no one's making an extensive personal examination of my clever dick.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Stirlingsays 10 Aug 24 8.19pm
Originally posted by becky We wouldn't want it to be bent out of shape.....besides with all this cake I haven't seen the thing for two months. I'm eating too much....I know this because I'm munching on biscuits as I type this. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 Aug 24 8.19pm

Originally posted by becky

We wouldn't want it to be bent out of shape.....besides with all this cake I haven't seen the thing for two months.

I'm eating too much....I know this because I'm munching on biscuits as I type this.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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eaglesdare 10 Aug 24 8.43pm
Originally posted by XKudu How do I block someone on this site so I don’t need to read their posts? Just scroll past their username and post without reading. Works wonders for me. Hopefully the ignore button will help. Edited by eaglesdare (10 Aug 2024 8.44pm)
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10 Aug 24 8.43pm

Originally posted by XKudu

How do I block someone on this site so I don’t need to read their posts?

Just scroll past their username and post without reading. Works wonders for me. Hopefully the ignore button will help.

Edited by eaglesdare (10 Aug 2024 8.44pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 9.04pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Can't await an enquiry while other occasions can await police intervention in an ongoing series of crimes. Great. Are all protests are motivated by malign outside influences? Probably not. Manchester, Rochdale, London Bridge, 7/7, etc were followed by candle lit vigils and songs. Maybe Southport was the tipping point. I stand by the claim that concentrating on this one issue is distracting attention from the original event. If a riot is active, and others planned, do you seriously expect the police not to intervene? They don’t have unlimited resources so it’s inevitable that less urgent things must be delayed. No, not all protests are motivated by malign outside influences. Some are, especially the organised peaceful ones are motivated by genuine concerns. We are not though talking about protests. We are talking about riots. Riots engineered and encouraged by influencers on social media. Southport had nothing to do with them, other than that it was the excuse used. I stand by the claim that any further discussion on the original event is both disrespectful to those involved and grieving and without relevance to the rioting. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 9.04pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If a riot is active, and others planned, do you seriously expect the police not to intervene? They don’t have unlimited resources so it’s inevitable that less urgent things must be delayed.

No, not all protests are motivated by malign outside influences. Some are, especially the organised peaceful ones are motivated by genuine concerns. We are not though talking about protests. We are talking about riots. Riots engineered and encouraged by influencers on social media. Southport had nothing to do with them, other than that it was the excuse used.

I stand by the claim that any further discussion on the original event is both disrespectful to those involved and grieving and without relevance to the rioting.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 9.18pm
Originally posted by cryrst It’s an age thing and you could easily look back so don’t play silly games. My memory is fine don’t you concern yourself! I don’t play silly games other than with my great grandchildren. Well not so often any more. That is an age thing! I really cannot be ars*d but you can always prove me wrong. This was the comment that started this exchange:- “You should condemn that judge for using colour in the summing up but you don’t. The grooming gangs are “just criminals” you said. Colour and religion do not matter you said. Watch these anti whatever marches get more violent than the anti immigration ones because the only target will be the plod. This is self inflicted by slimer for not being honest right at the start.” I don’t see a question there. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 9.18pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It’s an age thing and you could easily look back so don’t play silly games.

My memory is fine don’t you concern yourself! I don’t play silly games other than with my great grandchildren. Well not so often any more. That is an age thing!

I really cannot be ars*d but you can always prove me wrong. This was the comment that started this exchange:-

“You should condemn that judge for using colour in the summing up but you don’t. The grooming gangs are “just criminals” you said. Colour and religion do not matter you said. Watch these anti whatever marches get more violent than the anti immigration ones because the only target will be the plod. This is self inflicted by slimer for not being honest right at the start.”

I don’t see a question there.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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