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johnfirewall 18 Jan 16 11.56am | |
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Quote nickgusset at 18 Jan 2016 11.38am
All of this nonsense in the currant buns front page. I've just read the Guardian's round-up of all the other papers, none of which seem to think it was a very good idea, to say the least, nor do they seem to disgree that he said “There don’t have to be nuclear warheads on them". In a rare absense of a Guardian article soley centred around other outlets being wrong thus temprarily crediting the left with an ounce of sanity, you're saying he did't actually say it.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jan 16 12.26pm | |
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Quote johnfirewall at 18 Jan 2016 11.56am
Quote nickgusset at 18 Jan 2016 11.38am
All of this nonsense in the currant buns front page. I've just read the Guardian's round-up of all the other papers, none of which seem to think it was a very good idea, to say the least, nor do they seem to disgree that he said “There don’t have to be nuclear warheads on them". In a rare absense of a Guardian article soley centred around other outlets being wrong thus temprarily crediting the left with an ounce of sanity, you're saying he did't actually say it.
They don't actually need to have nuclear warheads on them, as they can use the missile system to deliver an non-nuclear payload, or they could be used as traditional submarines, but ultimately that would be fairly pointless, given we already have traditional submarine in the navy, and our warships are capable of delivering longer range missile strikes. Trident isn't the answer, but a non-nuclear trident is even more pointless that a aircraft carrier that has no aircraft. Having a nuclear capacity, it makes no sense to just disarm without significant compromise from other nuclear nations, and non-nuclear nations. Realistically the genie isn't going back in the bottle either. The only thing that will prevent nations seeking nuclear capability is allies with nuclear capability, or a more powerful alternative to Nuclear weapons. Even France has nuclear capability. I think the only country to ever disarm has been South Africa, which didn't have thermonuclear capability (I think they were developing a neutron bomb in a shared project with Israels nuclear research). Within 20 years, Iran and Saudi Arabia will probably test a nuclear weapon.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 16 12.37pm | |
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Quote johnfirewall at 18 Jan 2016 11.56am
I've just read the Guardian's round-up of all the other papers, none of which seem to think it was a very good idea, to say the least, nor do they seem to disgree that he said “There don’t have to be nuclear warheads on them". In a rare absense of a Guardian article soley centred around other outlets being wrong thus temprarily crediting the left with an ounce of sanity, you're saying he did't actually say it.
Apologies for the formatting, but copied from pdf. EDIT. The bold part - Marr said that Corbyn said one answer might be... Corbyn didn't, Marr was the one who suggested it. Like I said earlier, a hatchet job. Edited by nickgusset (18 Jan 2016 12.47pm)
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johnfirewall 18 Jan 16 1.49pm | |
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He suggested he suggested it, which he didn't dispute, as he said "They don’t actually have nuclear warheads on them"
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 18 Jan 16 1.54pm | |
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No wonder he wants to give the Falklands back his other half is Argentinian !!
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Stirlingsays 18 Jan 16 2.19pm | |
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Corbyn must realise that this situation is ridiculous. He must know that the vast majority in England will never vote for giving up nuclear weapons.....The lefties in Scotland and half in Wales perhaps but it is simply never going to happen in England. Corbyn has led his party to irrelevance and I may be Ukip but I still have respect for some old Labour values.....But this one was always bats*** crazy and Corbyn just looks like a fool.
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 18 Jan 16 2.25pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Jan 2016 2.19pm
Corbyn must realise that this situation is ridiculous. He must know that the vast majority in England will never vote for giving up nuclear weapons.....The lefties in Scotland and half in Wales perhaps but it is simply never going to happen in England. Corbyn has led his party to irrelevance and I may be Ukip but I still have respect for some old Labour values.....But this one was always bats*** crazy and Corbyn just looks like a fool. Everytime he opens his mouth he distances himself from more and more of the electorate, we all know that the tories are piss taking bastads, but Corbyn and his bunch of crusty lesbians and hippys are unelectable. So I ask what do voters do in this case, no one is going to vote UKIP, lets be honest here, they just aren't. So it's either hand GB over to which ever agressive economic power decides to take over first, or vote the robbing bastads that are the tories back in again. What a crock of s***.
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Stuk Top half 18 Jan 16 3.15pm | |
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He's had possibly his most retarded weekend so far. I don't even think he'll make it to the general election.
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Jan 16 3.22pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 18 Jan 2016 11.38am
All of this nonsense in the currant buns front page.
However, the solution, which he appeared to support on Marr, and has been collaborated in the papers which suggest the Labour spin masters have been supporting the idea, is a giant, expensive fudge, one which if Cameron had proposed, you would be critiscisimg to the hilt. This is a classic clash of interests. A politician having to compromise principles because his paymasters disagree with his principles. I would actually have some respect for Corbyn if he said, no trident under any circumstances. However, he has opened up in my mind that that his principles are for sale. Something he appeared to be against from the start, with his 'new politics', and if I was a Labour or Corbyn supporter, I would be concerned at this development. Edited by matt_himself (18 Jan 2016 3.23pm)
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Jan 16 3.24pm | |
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Quote Stuk at 18 Jan 2016 3.15pm
He's had possibly his most retarded weekend so far. I don't even think he'll make it to the general election.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 16 3.45pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 18 Jan 2016 3.22pm
Quote nickgusset at 18 Jan 2016 11.38am
All of this nonsense in the currant buns front page.
However, the solution, which he appeared to support on Marr, and has been collaborated in the papers which suggest the Labour spin masters have been supporting the idea, is a giant, expensive fudge, one which if Cameron had proposed, you would be critiscisimg to the hilt. This is a classic clash of interests. A politician having to compromise principles because his paymasters disagree with his principles. I would actually have some respect for Corbyn if he said, no trident under any circumstances. However, he has opened up in my mind that that his principles are for sale. Something he appeared to be against from the start, with his 'new politics', and if I was a Labour or Corbyn supporter, I would be concerned at this development. Edited by matt_himself (18 Jan 2016 3.23pm) FYI tis corroborated. See even after I've left the classroom I can learn people things. You will spin anti Corbyn, even if he saved your mother from a house fire.
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Jan 16 3.53pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 18 Jan 2016 3.45pm
Quote matt_himself at 18 Jan 2016 3.22pm
Quote nickgusset at 18 Jan 2016 11.38am
All of this nonsense in the currant buns front page.
However, the solution, which he appeared to support on Marr, and has been collaborated in the papers which suggest the Labour spin masters have been supporting the idea, is a giant, expensive fudge, one which if Cameron had proposed, you would be critiscisimg to the hilt. This is a classic clash of interests. A politician having to compromise principles because his paymasters disagree with his principles. I would actually have some respect for Corbyn if he said, no trident under any circumstances. However, he has opened up in my mind that that his principles are for sale. Something he appeared to be against from the start, with his 'new politics', and if I was a Labour or Corbyn supporter, I would be concerned at this development. Edited by matt_himself (18 Jan 2016 3.23pm) FYI tis corroborated. See even after I've left the classroom I can learn people things. You will spin anti Corbyn, even if he saved your mother from a house fire.
Rather than attacking the man (remember when the argument is lost, slander is the tool of the loser, or something), you could try and rebuff what I said. Edited by matt_himself (18 Jan 2016 3.53pm)
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