I've been here since 2009 and had a yellow quite a few times and a couple of reds that were overturned. I've led quite a charmed existence on Hol. It's normal to feel wronged as it's a judgement call....Hrolf also just recently received a yellow and he's had enough to build a brick road.

It's my view censorship should be limited, much more towards the attitudes of the past when this country actually felt free.

The more you censor the more false and fake people are in response and thus conversations and debates become performative rather than substantive. It paints an artificial picture of reality and you have to ask yourself is that worth it.

Besides this plenty of sites already choose to highly censor what can be said. So those sites already exist. So, in my view, purely upon the basis of free speech we need more sites that respect plurality of viewpoints.

Does that get taken advantage of by bad actors?.....sure. That is human nature, however 'safety' never crossed the Atlantic and I feel that personally when you allow free debate better thinkers combat dishonest and disingenuous ones and the audience gets to see that outcome in the open.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2024 3.39pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yes, I have appealed. And Got four sentences explaining that I've only been here for 5 minutes and that's not allowed to oust narcissistic personality disordered indivuals in that time. I should also read the rules again.
Apparently rules don't apply to 5 minute wonders

The new site can't come quick enough.

One more point

The rules are guidelines for us and for the mods to interpret.

Personally I enjoyed it back when you'd get the occasional resentful 'flounce' and all the drama that came with it. But it's understandable that this wasn't exactly fun for the mods, who do this all for free.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I think we've been pretty liberal, considering how emotive this subject is, in allowing everyone to express their viewpoint, despite some of them being quite contentious, as long as they stick to the topic and comment their opinions on the post.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

I would conclude there probably isn't a two-tier moderating system on HOL, unlike real-life justice.
I've enjoyed some of the discussions, if not for their intellectual content, then purely for entertainment. I have been enlightened by many posters on here.
And the MODs are rather fantastic.

I was going to post a link to BBC video coverage of the disorder, but feel I might be prosecuted for encouraging or promoting law-breaking. I've probably committed a crime, just for thinking it

But here goes

[Link]

If people are being prosecuted for riot postings on the internet, then the BBC should be the first port of call for police, now they are freeing up people from the Huw Edwards investigation.

I disengage, I turn the page.