I disagree as far too many people are just plain stupid and the message needs to be drummed home. It isn't enough for the news to be full of coronavirus stories as too many people don't watch the news.

I'm sure that almost everyone on this forum has a first hand account of people being stupid like the couple in Sainsbury yesterday who were picking up and handling unwrapped broccoli before putting it back again

Not only will it kill more than 21 per million because of virus growth and spread...

Japan have had it all under control. We aren’t anything like Japan. Neither is America, Italy or Spain. You’ve said for so long how and why we should be, and how far from that we are, but you want us to instantly be like Japan within weeks.

Some of the things you’d like us to implement before this virus sounded like sensible proposals. But before this I wouldn’t like us to be as cleanly clinical like Japan or many of their living habits. I much prefer Western European and Mediterranean (and I suppose some of our disobedience makes us who we are, give us our sense of humour and character). A lot of that culture is in hold for now and will no doubt change slightly for a short amount of time, unless they’ve been close to death or the virus a lot lot more than it looks like we’re going to let it.

If you watch the thousands of hospital beds about to be full without being able to see virtually anyone else and the usual admissions that could’ve resulted in death without this not to mention the lack of ventilators that would’ve increased the deaths and possibly had us in a Spanish situation of deciding who died without treatment then we’ll see why it’s all necessary. Hopefully we’ll all get our return to normality for most people before the summer solstice.

The front pages of police action in one sense are probably unnecessary, and you could say sending out the wrong message. But in another way, and you’ve said yourself the isolation will never work so why bother, it’s more warning to practice the advice given or you’ve had a wasted journey or been collared by the law. I can’t see why people who can’t just stay at home or in their local area and not go to national parks etc are worth a debate anyway.

My wife and I are managing to stay 2 metres away from each other. It’s horrible, as normally I don’t like to be anywhere near as close to her as that.

My wife and I are managing to stay 2 metres away from each other. It’s horrible, as normally I don’t like to be anywhere near as close to her as that.

I thought you were in your bunker prepared with 5 years of with spam lol.

If you mean Germany or countries with testing kits aplenty in preparation then yeah. But we haven’t had the kits. Germany still has the cases anyway, but not the deaths. Which western countries away from those that have experienced Sarrs have been well prepared and dealt with it so well?

Deeply cleansing everywhere I highly doubt we’d have been prepared for or in lots of cases prepared to do. You are right, but could you really see that happening in February?

I get the sense you have the solutions but deep down you must know they’d never happen here. In future virus cases then hopefully they will. If you or anyone in your family had an emergency but because there was no lockdown you or your son or wife had to lay in a hospital bed in corridor then your view might change, because that is a very real possibility. Lots affected will think it happens to other people. Actually you probably won’t because you’re prepared for however long with however many tins in preparation.

All said in jest. I get the frustration but until the kits are put into use it appears it’s either control or no control of the situation and no political leaders or parties will come out of that once everyone looks back in hindsight and says ‘told you so’, even if they didn’t, which is rife in Britain these days.