That it wasn't mentioned in the manifesto doesn't then make it binding! I am not arguing that both Tories and Labour haven't committed to respecting the referendum. They have but, in my opinion, they ought not have done because no referendum has the force of law in the UK. Only Parliaments can make the law and Parliaments can both change and change their mind.

Just imagine that in the 2017 GE, that Labour had won more seats than the Tories and, with support from the SNP, formed a Government. It was close! Do you believe that that Parliament would have felt obliged to respect the referendum result? Corbyn would but all of the SNP would not and nor would many Labour members.

As an exercise to find out the strength of opinion it might have been justified as it could then have been used as a negotiating tool to wrangle concessions on free movement.

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I'll blame 'Midland' tbh.
At risk of a red, the man has to get a grip.

Buy Litecoin.

I agree! Holding a vote was stupid, done for party political reasons and was not in the country's interests at all. Why though should we be made to suffer the consequences of such stupidity? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but generally it is also worthless. This is one of those rare occasions when hindsight comes early enough for corrective action to be taken.

I am no defeatist. At my age whatever happens is unlikely to impact me very much or for too long. I am though concerned for my country's future and that of my children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren and, of course, my wife who is much younger than me.

I don't see the EU as "foreign" at all and the type of xenophobic attitude you hint at is something I reject as out of date and not at all in our interests. I have much more in common with my many friends in Europe than with some people in the UK, whilst there are others in Europe who I want nothing to do with at all. We are just stronger together. We will always argue and have different attitudes but there is more that unites us with the rest of the EU than divides us from it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I still remain confused why Corbyn insists May takes* "No deal off the table". He voted for the act that encodes it into law.

It's not like he didn't know that once the act became law, the clock started ticking. He three-line whipped the Labour party to vote for it. I suspect it currently enjoys the highest majority vote in this sitting parliament:

Vote to enact Article 50 & leave NO MATTER WHAT: +372
Vote to accept May's BRINO prison: -230
Vote to support current government: +19

I'd say "Leave the EU no matter what" has by far the highest support of the house.

*(that would, in itself, require an act of parliament, given that Corbyn was so keen to ensure no "Henry VIII powers" were available to the executive. I mean, he knows that, right?)

You don't see the EU as foreign? So who is foreign exactly?
Not the French or the Germans? We might all be well travelled these days but one country interests are still not the same as another.
If you think that calling another country or countries foreign is xenophobic, then you need to buy a dictionary and then get a grip.

Why you assume that Brexit will not be good for Britain is puzzling. I assume you are preoccupied with the financial implications, so how can you possibly predict the outcome? No one else can.

Projections are usually wrong.