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Stirlingsays Flag 03 Dec 19 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The NHS is 'up for sale' according to Labour.

Yeah....looks a real bargain doesn't it.....Employs 1.3 million staff and is continually in debt.

Foreign health tourism and abuse of the system every hour.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 03 Dec 19 11.27pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

RUIs

Allegedly 93,000

Discuss

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Dec 19 1.31am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

RUIs

Allegedly 93,000

Discuss


Not much to discuss is there.

Social liberalism causes the increase in these problems but neo liberalism doesn't want to pay for it.

We have had millions placed into the population without the prisons and other infrastructure because that's the chosen method of economic growth for decades.....more strain placed on proportionally less staff.

The 2008 crash happens and the pips squeak.....it's just a long term effect from that.

Pretty much every public service is run at under efficiency and hence reduced standards because the system can't cope.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Dec 2019 1.34am)

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 19 6.12am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Not much to discuss is there.

Social liberalism causes the increase in these problems but neo liberalism doesn't want to pay for it.

We have had millions placed into the population without the prisons and other infrastructure because that's the chosen method of economic growth for decades.....more strain placed on proportionally less staff.

The 2008 crash happens and the pips squeak.....it's just a long term effect from that.

Pretty much every public service is run at under efficiency and hence reduced standards because the system can't cope.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Dec 2019 1.34am)

Too much management,period.
All for arse covering.
Efficiency suffers when you arnt allowed to make natural mistakes so you put a line of hierarchy so long decisions never fall at one person's feet, so they are never made.
That's the difference in private business.
Someone gets it when it goes wrong and lessons are learnt.
Dealt with and move on.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 04 Dec 19 6.15am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Too much management,period.
All for arse covering.
Efficiency suffers when you arnt allowed to make natural mistakes so you put a line of hierarchy so long decisions never fall at one person's feet, so they are never made.

My wife is a nurse and she spends at least half of her time form filling and reporting as we are now living in a litigation society and everything has to be well documented which obviously means less time actually looking after patients

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 19 6.24am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My wife is a nurse and she spends at least half of her time form filling and reporting as we are now living in a litigation society and everything has to be well documented which obviously means less time actually looking after patients

Exactly.
If it comes on top and a mistake is made, which happens; then isolate it,investigate how it can be not repeated as best ,pay out if needed and help the next patient.
Money saving is easy when you realise s*** happens.
Nurse and doctor 'shortsges' fundamentally are because of bad time and motion practises.
Think how many more patients your dear wife could help if her skills were used for 'nursing' and I'm sure that is all she wants to do. Help people.
Please thank her from me Midland.

 

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jeeagles Flag 04 Dec 19 8.03am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The NHS is 'up for sale' according to Labour.

Yeah....looks a real bargain doesn't it.....Employs 1.3 million staff and is continually in debt.

Foreign health tourism and abuse of the system every hour.

Saw a video last night where a woman was told it cost $10,000 to have a baby in america. She seemed shocked. The video faild to report how much each of these procedures would cost the tax payer under the NHS and what the quality and the availability of the service was like.

There was a big fuss in the comments about people calling uber's to get to emergency wards because Ambulance call outs cost too much... if you can get an uber, you dont need an ambulance.

Also forgot to mention that tax in the states is half what it is here!

The NHS has turned into a bureaucratic regime, the funding mechanism isn't working, people arent getting the service they need. But it's still blindly supported.

 

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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 04 Dec 19 8.09am Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

The Tories are panicking Polling almost exactly mirrors that of 2017, and this time if they get no majority they won't be able to implement the only real thing they're campaigning for.

Their campaign has once again been a sham. Imagine trying to convince people you are the best person to negotiate new trade deals with some of the biggest nations on earth, but being too scared to be interviewed by someone from the BBC? Johnson used to thrive on his eccentricity and humour, but he has shown absolutely none of that this time around.

Ironically, it could be that Corbyn - the mp so resolutely ideological he defied the whip more than any other - becomes PM because he understands that compromise is important in politics, whereas Johnson and the Tories have showed total disdain to anyone who doesn't go along with what their saying.

I'm still hoping he loses his seat. The man is a charlatan who doesn't give a toss about anything, least of all Brexit. If it gets him the job, he will do or say anything, and to be using the valid sentiments of many leave voters in such a way is the worst form of politics.

Edited by serial thriller (04 Dec 2019 8.10am)

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 19 1.07pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

The Tories are panicking Polling almost exactly mirrors that of 2017, and this time if they get no majority they won't be able to implement the only real thing they're campaigning for.

Their campaign has once again been a sham. Imagine trying to convince people you are the best person to negotiate new trade deals with some of the biggest nations on earth, but being too scared to be interviewed by someone from the BBC? Johnson used to thrive on his eccentricity and humour, but he has shown absolutely none of that this time around.

Ironically, it could be that Corbyn - the mp so resolutely ideological he defied the whip more than any other - becomes PM because he understands that compromise is important in politics, whereas Johnson and the Tories have showed total disdain to anyone who doesn't go along with what their saying.

I'm still hoping he loses his seat. The man is a charlatan who doesn't give a toss about anything, least of all Brexit. If it gets him the job, he will do or say anything, and to be using the valid sentiments of many leave voters in such a way is the worst form of politics.

Edited by serial thriller (04 Dec 2019 8.10am)

Clearly labour dont say anything to garner votes then.
Like discount this and free that.
Wake up man.
Socialism isnt nice!

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Dec 19 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Corbyn has compared himself to Robin Hood. Well I would say he is half right, he robs from the rich.

Actually it kinda makes sense that he admires a terrorist who attacks the authorities who are going about their legal business.

 


One more point

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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Dec 19 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

The Tories are panicking Polling almost exactly mirrors that of 2017, and this time if they get no majority they won't be able to implement the only real thing they're campaigning for.

Their campaign has once again been a sham. Imagine trying to convince people you are the best person to negotiate new trade deals with some of the biggest nations on earth, but being too scared to be interviewed by someone from the BBC? Johnson used to thrive on his eccentricity and humour, but he has shown absolutely none of that this time around.

Ironically, it could be that Corbyn - the mp so resolutely ideological he defied the whip more than any other - becomes PM because he understands that compromise is important in politics, whereas Johnson and the Tories have showed total disdain to anyone who doesn't go along with what their saying.

I'm still hoping he loses his seat. The man is a charlatan who doesn't give a toss about anything, least of all Brexit. If it gets him the job, he will do or say anything, and to be using the valid sentiments of many leave voters in such a way is the worst form of politics.

Edited by serial thriller (04 Dec 2019 8.10am)

You have two hopes, no hope and Bob Hope.....and one of them is dead.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Dec 2019 1.42pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Dec 19 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Too much management,period.
All for arse covering.
Efficiency suffers when you arnt allowed to make natural mistakes so you put a line of hierarchy so long decisions never fall at one person's feet, so they are never made.
That's the difference in private business.
Someone gets it when it goes wrong and lessons are learnt.
Dealt with and move on.

The blood sucking lawyers, who are involved in it all, get to live nicely though.

 


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