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georgenorman 13 Jun 20 9.36pm | |
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I see that now BAME cases of coronavirus are down to racism. Is there no problematic aspect of life for BAME people that is not down to racism? It's like a Monty Python sketch.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jun 20 9.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
We are all being played here. Utterly convinced of it. BLM are horrendous. Their stated aims are simply beyond comprehension. Destroy the traditional family structure, abolish the Police and dismantle capitalism. All stated in plain sight. No nuance, no attempt to hide behind platitudes. You might be being played, but not by who you imagine we all are! I took a look, for the first time ever, at the "Black Lives Matter" website this evening. Thanks for giving me a reason to do that. Whilst I didn't read every page I saw nothing at all which suggests that their "stated aims" resemble your claim in the slightest. Indeed, this is what it says "whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives." I don't have much sympathy for a movement which describes itself as "Black Lives Matter" because I believe that ALL lives matter, and none of us ought to categorise ourselves by the colour of our skin, or any other arbitrary difference. There are no white or black races. We are all one race. So using that title adds fuel to the problem, instead of solving it. That said, it's obviously better to attribute it's aims accurately than to distort them. Nor do I have any time for violence when protesting. Whether that be by the left or the right. That some are determined to infiltrate groups and cause trouble is obvious. Who knows how much of that has been going on recently. Disagreeing with the way the Police respond to a protest you don't agree with is no reason at all to decide to become vigilantes. There is a correct way to raise your concerns and a wrong way. Deciding to try to confront another group is the wrong way. Quietly observe, video and then report is the right way. Don't try to do the job of the Police, however much you might disagree with them. It seems some on both sides are much more interested in the thrill of a good fight, or riot than they are in the underlying causes. When latter-day skinheads start to describe themselves as "patriots" then I quickly dismiss their authenticity. There are issues that need to be dealt with. Racism exists and it's very destructive. It is though very deeply embedded in our psyche. So deep in some cases that some are in total denial about themselves.
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Jun 20 9.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You might be being played, but not by who you imagine we all are! I took a look, for the first time ever, at the "Black Lives Matter" website this evening. Thanks for giving me a reason to do that. Whilst I didn't read every page I saw nothing at all which suggests that their "stated aims" resemble your claim in the slightest. Indeed, this is what it says "whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives." I don't have much sympathy for a movement which describes itself as "Black Lives Matter" because I believe that ALL lives matter, and none of us ought to categorise ourselves by the colour of our skin, or any other arbitrary difference. There are no white or black races. We are all one race. So using that title adds fuel to the problem, instead of solving it. That said, it's obviously better to attribute it's aims accurately than to distort them. Nor do I have any time for violence when protesting. Whether that be by the left or the right. That some are determined to infiltrate groups and cause trouble is obvious. Who knows how much of that has been going on recently. Disagreeing with the way the Police respond to a protest you don't agree with is no reason at all to decide to become vigilantes. There is a correct way to raise your concerns and a wrong way. Deciding to try to confront another group is the wrong way. Quietly observe, video and then report is the right way. Don't try to do the job of the Police, however much you might disagree with them. It seems some on both sides are much more interested in the thrill of a good fight, or riot than they are in the underlying causes. When latter-day skinheads start to describe themselves as "patriots" then I quickly dismiss their authenticity. There are issues that need to be dealt with. Racism exists and it's very destructive. It is though very deeply embedded in our psyche. So deep in some cases that some are in total denial about themselves. And white supremacy exists where in the uk then.
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Jun 20 9.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You might be being played, but not by who you imagine we all are! I took a look, for the first time ever, at the "Black Lives Matter" website this evening. Thanks for giving me a reason to do that. Whilst I didn't read every page I saw nothing at all which suggests that their "stated aims" resemble your claim in the slightest. Indeed, this is what it says "whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives." I don't have much sympathy for a movement which describes itself as "Black Lives Matter" because I believe that ALL lives matter, and none of us ought to categorise ourselves by the colour of our skin, or any other arbitrary difference. There are no white or black races. We are all one race. So using that title adds fuel to the problem, instead of solving it. That said, it's obviously better to attribute it's aims accurately than to distort them. Nor do I have any time for violence when protesting. Whether that be by the left or the right. That some are determined to infiltrate groups and cause trouble is obvious. Who knows how much of that has been going on recently. Disagreeing with the way the Police respond to a protest you don't agree with is no reason at all to decide to become vigilantes. There is a correct way to raise your concerns and a wrong way. Deciding to try to confront another group is the wrong way. Quietly observe, video and then report is the right way. Don't try to do the job of the Police, however much you might disagree with them. It seems some on both sides are much more interested in the thrill of a good fight, or riot than they are in the underlying causes. When latter-day skinheads start to describe themselves as "patriots" then I quickly dismiss their authenticity. There are issues that need to be dealt with. Racism exists and it's very destructive. It is though very deeply embedded in our psyche. So deep in some cases that some are in total denial about themselves. Is black joy battering white people as some kind of retaliation for the past. Very forward thinking. More and more believing that report about how clever they arnt.
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Matov 13 Jun 20 9.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You might be being played, but not by who you imagine we all are!
As I said, I genuinely do not know. I know too many Jews to believe in any conspiracy given how they constantly argue and fall out with each, and often more than happy to stab each other in the back. So who else wants to disrupt Western Civilisation to this extent? As to their motives, well this is from inside the Seattle autonomous zone. BLM central. Ready to pay up?
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georgenorman 13 Jun 20 10.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
From their fund raising page: [Link] Edited by georgenorman (13 Jun 2020 10.06pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Jun 20 10.11pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
From their fund raising page: [Link] Edited by georgenorman (13 Jun 2020 10.06pm) Wisbech doesn’t include the crucial huge bits that don’t fit his point.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Jun 20 10.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You might be being played, but not by who you imagine we all are! I took a look, for the first time ever, at the "Black Lives Matter" website this evening. Thanks for giving me a reason to do that. Whilst I didn't read every page I saw nothing at all which suggests that their "stated aims" resemble your claim in the slightest. Indeed, this is what it says "whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives." I don't have much sympathy for a movement which describes itself as "Black Lives Matter" because I believe that ALL lives matter, and none of us ought to categorise ourselves by the colour of our skin, or any other arbitrary difference. There are no white or black races. We are all one race. So using that title adds fuel to the problem, instead of solving it. That said, it's obviously better to attribute it's aims accurately than to distort them. Nor do I have any time for violence when protesting. Whether that be by the left or the right. That some are determined to infiltrate groups and cause trouble is obvious. Who knows how much of that has been going on recently. Disagreeing with the way the Police respond to a protest you don't agree with is no reason at all to decide to become vigilantes. There is a correct way to raise your concerns and a wrong way. Deciding to try to confront another group is the wrong way. Quietly observe, video and then report is the right way. Don't try to do the job of the Police, however much you might disagree with them. It seems some on both sides are much more interested in the thrill of a good fight, or riot than they are in the underlying causes. When latter-day skinheads start to describe themselves as "patriots" then I quickly dismiss their authenticity. There are issues that need to be dealt with. Racism exists and it's very destructive. It is though very deeply embedded in our psyche. So deep in some cases that some are in total denial about themselves. Listen to this bollox and have a rethink. Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Jun 2020 10.13pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Jun 20 10.15pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Is black joy battering white people as some kind of retaliation for the past. Very forward thinking. More and more believing that report about how clever they arnt. You should read the black women on Twitter rejoicing in multiple cases of white men being beaten by 10 black men. You’d think their life was just about to improve many times over along with some kind of revenge for something or other. Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Jun 2020 10.16pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Jun 20 10.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
As I said, I genuinely do not know. I know too many Jews to believe in any conspiracy given how they constantly argue and fall out with each, and often more than happy to stab each other in the back. So who else wants to disrupt Western Civilisation to this extent? As to their motives, well this is from inside the Seattle autonomous zone. BLM central. Ready to pay up?
I said that any white is a target. That snake head better get out of town soon as it's their homes, their possesions then their lives. This is about black power and nothing else. Like I said george floyd, my left one indeed.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jun 20 10.17pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
And white supremacy exists where in the uk then.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jun 20 10.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Listen to this bollox and have a rethink. Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Jun 2020 10.13pm) That's ONE "activist! That's like suggesting I speak on behalf of this forum!
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