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The Wilfried Zaha Thread
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 bexleydave  Barnehurst 04 Feb 19 11.38am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by chris123
He has to respond to the charge by tomorrow I think.
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| Midlands Eagle 04 Feb 19 11.47am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by bexleydave
What's "fair" got to do with it as it's the FA we're talking about
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 04 Feb 19 11.54am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle He has been charged and will be found guilty (the FA have an amazingly high percentage found guilty, not sure what it is now but it used to under half a percent were found not guilty). The question will be how long the ban is rather than if there is an additional ban. Two matches on the naughty step is my guess.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 04 Feb 19 11.54am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
What's "fair" got to do with it as it's the FA we're talking about Talking of fair Ashley Barnes is booked for diving (it was a penalty) he then has a prolonged rant at the linesman and the referee and doesn't get a second yellow. Go figure. My guess is that Wilf will pick up a further 2 game ban I hope I am wrong.
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| Charlie Croker Hampshire 04 Feb 19 12.37pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle I would hope that Wilf or the club would highlight the difference in the way the games were reffed. But it's the FA, so fairness may not be part of the process, and they are just as likely to view any argument like that as a 'frivolous appeal' and ban him for 2 or more games.
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| Nobbybm Dartford 04 Feb 19 12.58pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle I read somewhere he has until 18.00 hrs on 5th Feb to appeal - perhaps the Barnes incident will help Wilf (or possibly the FA will simply charge Barnes too). Edited by Nobbybm (04 Feb 2019 12.59pm)
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| Petereagle Brockley 04 Feb 19 1.31pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Charlie Croker
I would hope that Wilf or the club would highlight the difference in the way the games were reffed. But it's the FA, so fairness may not be part of the process, and they are just as likely to view any argument like that as a 'frivolous appeal' and ban him for 2 or more games. But Barnes did at last stop ranting, but sad to say Wilf didn’t, he kept on applauding the ref and just wouldn’t stop, a proper case of the red mist descending. But at least we did win without him, and Batshuayi will make a big difference to morale, and hopefully take the pressure off. And both Ayew and Benteke did well. So hopefully when he does come back there will be much less pressure on Wilf to always provide the magic
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| Charlie Croker Hampshire 04 Feb 19 1.56pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Petereagle
But Barnes did at last stop ranting, but sad to say Wilf didn’t, he kept on applauding the ref and just wouldn’t stop, a proper case of the red mist descending. He did stop - and Wilf clapped again. But if the MOTD footage is anything to go by, Barnes's language was pretty blue, and he was right in the face of the lino - so I would view it as bad as, if not worse, than Wilf's reaction. Barnes was hard done by in this case so I understand the frustration and the outburst, but this is about consistency. Wilf's annoyance at being kicked and fouled resulted in a reaction and a yellow, followed by a 2nd silly (but predictable) yellow. Barnes wrongful booking for simulation should have been followed immediately by a 2nd yellow for the outburst. Otherwise we're staying that a player can scream abuse into the face of an official and not get a sanction, but sarcasm will. And in these two instances, both were commenting on the quality of the officials, just in different ways. If Barnes doesn't at least get a charge, then in future Wilf may as well shout and scream rather than clap.
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| Petereagle Brockley 04 Feb 19 3.02pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Charlie Croker
He did stop - and Wilf clapped again. But if the MOTD footage is anything to go by, Barnes's language was pretty blue, and he was right in the face of the lino - so I would view it as bad as, if not worse, than Wilf's reaction. Barnes was hard done by in this case so I understand the frustration and the outburst, but this is about consistency. Wilf's annoyance at being kicked and fouled resulted in a reaction and a yellow, followed by a 2nd silly (but predictable) yellow. Barnes wrongful booking for simulation should have been followed immediately by a 2nd yellow for the outburst. Otherwise we're staying that a player can scream abuse into the face of an official and not get a sanction, but sarcasm will. And in these two instances, both were commenting on the quality of the officials, just in different ways. If Barnes doesn't at least get a charge, then in future Wilf may as well shout and scream rather than clap. Very good point . Barnes and Wilf should get the same charge, Barnes got away with it
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| The Dolphin 04 Feb 19 5.20pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Barnes definitely got away with it and can't be done as the ref booked him.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Feb 19 5.38pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by The Dolphin
Barnes definitely got away with it and can't be done as the ref booked him. The ref also booked Wolf twice hence the red card. This had me wondering if then there are limited actions the FA can take as it was dealt with by the ref at the time. One equivalent I can think of off the top of my head is Wenger. He was sent to the stands continued to complain and got a touchline ban and fine. I can't remember if it was much of a ban or not.
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| VKR1888 London 04 Feb 19 5.42pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ASCPFC
The ref also booked Wolf twice hence the red card. This had me wondering if then there are limited actions the FA can take as it was dealt with by the ref at the time. One equivalent I can think of off the top of my head is Wenger. He was sent to the stands continued to complain and got a touchline ban and fine. I can't remember if it was much of a ban or not. He never got carded for the additional clapping so they can give him whatever they want.
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