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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 6.42pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
? I am done with him. You directly posted me, 'Well OK, show me the quote where Wisbech said it's OK to allow rape to continue for community relations and I shall review the situation.' I'm replying and providing the proof you directly asked for. Yet we find you twisting and turning looking for outs and ignoring what you don't wish to address.....it's all rather sullied for me. Like Chris said....no point....waste of time. I'll talk to you about subjects you're sensible on.
I am not done with your comment above! You have provided nothing but a misinterpretation of what I said then. Which is apparently the "best" you can find. I never said whether I approved of the action that I thought might explain things. I made no comment on that. ALL I did then, and since, was to try to counter the wild assertions that the state had deliberately failed to intervene, by finding possible alternative explanations. I have never defended child sexual exploitation of any kind anywhere. No ifs or buts involved. All I have done is offer a possible alternative viewpoint on why the investigation might have been kept under the radar. Whether that was wise is a completely different question which I have not tried to answer because I am not well enough aware of all the facts in play at the time. Nor does anyone who was not directly involved.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jul 19 7.05pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am not done with your comment above! You have provided nothing but a misinterpretation of what I said then. Which is apparently the "best" you can find. I never said whether I approved of the action that I thought might explain things. I made no comment on that. ALL I did then, and since, was to try to counter the wild assertions that the state had deliberately failed to intervene, by finding possible alternative explanations. I have never defended child sexual exploitation of any kind anywhere. No ifs or buts involved. All I have done is offer a possible alternative viewpoint on why the investigation might have been kept under the radar. Whether that was wise is a completely different question which I have not tried to answer because I am not well enough aware of all the facts in play at the time. Nor does anyone who was not directly involved. I politely ask you to stop replying to me.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 7.21pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
So you agree that Oxford, Rotherham, Telford, Newcastle, Leeds etc shows that peado gangs are an Islamic epidemic and that Islam actually teaches that it is ok to do these things to non believers? Furthermore that although child molesters can be any colour or creed that grooming gangs is culturally apparent in Islam and could be accurately described as rampant? I do stand corrected, fair play to you. Where do I mention Islam in my comment? I condemn criminals as individuals and not a religion. That you and so many others like "Robinson" do is one of my criticisms of this approach.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Jul 19 7.45pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Where do I mention Islam in my comment? I condemn criminals as individuals and not a religion. That you and so many others like "Robinson" do is one of my criticisms of this approach. You dont but when most others do can you not see the common denominator.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 8.08pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
You dont but when most others do can you not see the common denominator. They aren't though "Muslim" grooming gangs are they? That's just the shorthand given to them in the press and by people like you. I would wager that neither the Police nor the prosecutors nor the Judge ever used such a description. They are treated and judged as individuals. What their religious beliefs might be is beside the point. They are simply criminals. Islam was not in court. By describing criminals in this way taints many perfectly decent people trying to live ordinary lives. It isolates them and potentially drives them into the hands of radicals who will point out how unfairly they are being treated. It is totally counter productive. "Robinson" has an agenda which attacks Islam and he has exploited these cases to further that cause. I think his interest in trying to protect the innocent is a sham. He was found guilty of contempt of Court. No judgement was offered on his opinions about anything. Indeed you can hold whatever opinion you like. That's not against the law. It's what you do that can come into conflict with the law, and not what you believe. Why the prison authorities sent him to Belmarsh is for them to explain. It might be for his own protection because the security there is better than other places and they fear he might be attacked elsewhere. It might be because he will be assessed there and re-assigned elsewhere, if he behaves. It might be because he will be less likely to cause the disturbances he has threatened from there. I don't know but I am sure there will be a legitimate reason and not the silly ideas that have been asserted on here.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 8.13pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I politely ask you to stop replying to me. And I have politely told you, several times, I will decide for myself which comments I will respond to, who-ever decides to post them. If you don't want replies to comments, then don't post any comments. That's your choice. Responding is mine. I politely ask you to stop requesting me to stop replying to you, because you are wasting everyone's time.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jul 19 8.14pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
And I have politely told you, several times, I will decide for myself which comments I will respond to, who-ever decides to post them. If you don't want replies to comments, then don't post any comments. That's your choice. Responding is mine. I politely ask you to stop requesting me to stop replying to you, because you are wasting everyone's time. I politely ask you to stop replying to me.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 14 Jul 19 8.19pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Where do I mention Islam in my comment? I condemn criminals as individuals and not a religion. That you and so many others like "Robinson" do is one of my criticisms of this approach. So you don't agree then, so in actual fact you are an apologist for grooming gangs. There's an obvious, proven link between Muslim culture and grooming white children for sex. Deny it and you're excusing it, simple.
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Teddy Eagle  14 Jul 19 8.21pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren't though "Muslim" grooming gangs are they? That's just the shorthand given to them in the press and by people like you. I would wager that neither the Police nor the prosecutors nor the Judge ever used such a description. They are treated and judged as individuals. What their religious beliefs might be is beside the point. They are simply criminals. Islam was not in court. By describing criminals in this way taints many perfectly decent people trying to live ordinary lives. It isolates them and potentially drives them into the hands of radicals who will point out how unfairly they are being treated. It is totally counter productive. "Robinson" has an agenda which attacks Islam and he has exploited these cases to further that cause. I think his interest in trying to protect the innocent is a sham. He was found guilty of contempt of Court. No judgement was offered on his opinions about anything. Indeed you can hold whatever opinion you like. That's not against the law. It's what you do that can come into conflict with the law, and not what you believe. Why the prison authorities sent him to Belmarsh is for them to explain. It might be for his own protection because the security there is better than other places and they fear he might be attacked elsewhere. It might be because he will be assessed there and re-assigned elsewhere, if he behaves. It might be because he will be less likely to cause the disturbances he has threatened from there. I don't know but I am sure there will be a legitimate reason and not the silly ideas that have been asserted on here. Shorthand? In 27 cases 87% of 92 convictions were as described.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 19 8.27pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
And I have politely told you, several times, I will decide for myself which comments I will respond to, who-ever decides to post them. If you don't want replies to comments, then don't post any comments. That's your choice. Responding is mine. I politely ask you to stop requesting me to stop replying to you, because you are wasting everyone's time. Unfortunately, no matter how erudite you clearly are, I tend to skim past your posts because I firmly believe that you are fundamentally misguided. Sorry.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Jul 19 8.52pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
So you don't agree then, so in actual fact you are an apologist for grooming gangs. There's an obvious, proven link between Muslim culture and grooming white children for sex. Deny it and you're excusing it, simple. Maybe better too say there is a British/pakistani link to fiddling. I have Muslim friends from the Guinea, guys I do business with who are all for stinging these creeps up.(As well as other miscreants of all colours & creeds for that matter)
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| cryrst The garden of England 14 Jul 19 9.22pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren't though "Muslim" grooming gangs are they? That's just the shorthand given to them in the press and by people like you. I would wager that neither the Police nor the prosecutors nor the Judge ever used such a description. They are treated and judged as individuals. What their religious beliefs might be is beside the point. They are simply criminals. Islam was not in court. By describing criminals in this way taints many perfectly decent people trying to live ordinary lives. It isolates them and potentially drives them into the hands of radicals who will point out how unfairly they are being treated. It is totally counter productive. "Robinson" has an agenda which attacks Islam and he has exploited these cases to further that cause. I think his interest in trying to protect the innocent is a sham. He was found guilty of contempt of Court. No judgement was offered on his opinions about anything. Indeed you can hold whatever opinion you like. That's not against the law. It's what you do that can come into conflict with the law, and not what you believe. Why the prison authorities sent him to Belmarsh is for them to explain. It might be for his own protection because the security there is better than other places and they fear he might be attacked elsewhere. It might be because he will be assessed there and re-assigned elsewhere, if he behaves. It might be because he will be less likely to cause the disturbances he has threatened from there. I don't know but I am sure there will be a legitimate reason and not the silly ideas that have been asserted on here.
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