Roy made it clear when Franca arrived that he wasn’t just going to walk into the team. Roy is old school and there’s a way of doing things. Bide your time, keep your nose clean, show respect for the Management team and established squad, learn your place etc etc. and THEN be given your wings.

Personally I think when Franca has served his ‘time’ with Roy and gets his real chance in December he’ll prove to be an outstanding signing.

Edited by XKudu (25 Nov 2023 6.51pm)

We need a good Cup run against quality opposition to blood inexperienced younger players. However, I doubt that will happen as by the FA Cup rounds we may be struggling to keep our heads above water in the league.

Roy opted to stay on after last season when he could have bowed out at the top of his game. He must have been promised resources to take the team to the next level. Maybe a few well spent millions in January could make all the difference?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Yawn.

Roy selects and sets the team up.

Roy chooses the subs.

Take a look at him in this game when cameras showed hm when we went down he looked like a man lost.

Brings on a striker who has what is it 1 goal in 30 something games.

We have a right back who it is very clear to see is not a first team starter.

We have looked poor from balls going into the box yet no one is trying to block them.

Both Lutons goals was such poor defending.

You can disagree that is your choice but it's incorrect.

It was an awful game and the stats do not tell the true story.

We had high possession because Luton sit back and we did what we do knock the ball around but not doing anything with it no real intent on going forward (Luton are bit like old Palace possession didn't matter)

Yes we had some chances with fair % of those from corners but not really any threat maybe 2 of those.

Not unlucky at all they deserved it because of the work rate and drive to when they had a chance try to take it.

I wouldn't say injuries was issues either Roy as he does same old.

Schlupp and Ward should not be starting games.

I was confused why Ayew didn't start.

Wasted over 20m on A kid who gets 0 game time what was the point if you cant even get 1 minute in a game like this what does that say (Come Jan he has to be loaned out)

I feel for Roy in some ways but he knows what we is getting he is not new to the club and will know how SP operates (This is why we struggle to get managers to stay or interest from them why would you want to work for SP mt chum with the players and wont open the wallet)

I did answer some of this above.

Why do Palace have so many limitations this is down to the person in charge a team which has been in this league for how long we have should not still be on shoe string it's SP job to get the club out in the world attracting interest.

This is why I don't rate him and see it as to move forward we need someone else he can not do this it's above his skill set plus reach.

Franca is not a striker he is more of attacking mid.

A big issue Palace have is lack of movement this is tactics the same with this awful slow play at the back so many clubs do this now but with better quality you see they have more fluid about it we don't.

Mitchell didn't start out as a defender did he? and when I see him he doesn't look like one (I would like to see him on the wing with someone else behind him)

We will see Roy vs PV this season you could say Everton and Luton should not lose those games draw worst case but we lost both now the next round of games until Jan if we go on run not getting results it would make Roy on par with PV. (PV was never that good anyway I said it when we signed him not a good choice his record at other clubs was poor and the style he liked to play requires lot of spending which we did he had around 130m and still wanted another 60m+ to be spend which to be fair PV wanted Nketia who we refused to pay 20m for another one on SP)

Edited by grumpymort (25 Nov 2023 7.08pm)

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We have 8 current senior internationals plus Olise as an under 21 international. If we can’t beat Luton then you have to question the tactics and game management. I’m afraid that has to be down to the manager.

I’ve just had a bet on Roy being sacked. Harsh in some ways. As mentioned a lot is not his fault . It’s just football though and if you ain’t getting results he’ll be gone. Looking at our next run of games it won’t be long. If paddy McCarthy takes over il quit being a fan of 32 years. That would be a joke

Absolutely disgraceful and pathetic. But we'll stay up this season so that's ok then. Insult to the fans this clubs attitude. What year will the new stand be ready? And even when/if that's ever done, we'll still have home and away fans using the absolute s***hole that is the arthur waite stand! Disgraceful and a total piss take.