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TrickyboyVn Ho Chi Minh City 09 Oct 23 11.11am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops To be fair that was the only mistake I recall him making. He really is a solid keeper and all round I think a slight improvement on Guaita. He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there. Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ?? We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player. Good see Hughesy getting run of games. But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad. COYP
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TrickyboyVn

Ho Chi Minh City 09 Oct 23 11.11am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

To be fair that was the only mistake I recall him making. He really is a solid keeper and all round I think a slight improvement on Guaita.

He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there.

Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ??

We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse

Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player.

Good see Hughesy getting run of games.

But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad.

COYP

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TrickyboyVn Ho Chi Minh City 09 Oct 23 11.16am
However, though JRS was a breath of fresh air and fair play to the lad. He's like a new signing too and with a few games could really help us. Well done JRS you did great for a youngster and hope you go on to great things (with us tho)
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Ho Chi Minh City 09 Oct 23 11.16am

However, though JRS was a breath of fresh air and fair play to the lad.

He's like a new signing too and with a few games could really help us.

Well done JRS you did great for a youngster and hope you go on to great things (with us tho)

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Painter Croydon 09 Oct 23 1.28pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Olise-esque. I think Jes has the ability, he just severely lacks confidence which I'd think it extremely harsh to put him down for, he's a young lad breaking into the PL for the first time. My hope is that we do blood him well and with a bit more confidence gained we'll see the finished article at some point. May just be me but the sense I got of him was that he is currently stifled by the necessity and inclination to just 'not f**k up' which is prominent at the top level now (look at the boring Arsenal vs City game yesterday). I perhaps optimistically like to imagine with a loosening of inhibition and risk aversion, we may see the full potential of what he has to offer as a winger and attacking player. Either way, he should have our full support until then. Rak- Sakyi is 2 years older and more experienced than Franca, who is being built up as a wonder kid. People are expecting these youngsters to be prolific straight away, it isn’t going to happen, it takes time a Roy knows exactly how to introduce young players. I have a nagging feeling that Franca will be another Max Meyer, introduced with huge hype, but couldn’t deliver.
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Croydon 09 Oct 23 1.28pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Olise-esque.

I think Jes has the ability, he just severely lacks confidence which I'd think it extremely harsh to put him down for, he's a young lad breaking into the PL for the first time.

My hope is that we do blood him well and with a bit more confidence gained we'll see the finished article at some point. May just be me but the sense I got of him was that he is currently stifled by the necessity and inclination to just 'not f**k up' which is prominent at the top level now (look at the boring Arsenal vs City game yesterday).

I perhaps optimistically like to imagine with a loosening of inhibition and risk aversion, we may see the full potential of what he has to offer as a winger and attacking player. Either way, he should have our full support until then.

Rak- Sakyi is 2 years older and more experienced than Franca, who is being built up as a wonder kid. People are expecting these youngsters to be prolific straight away, it isn’t going to happen, it takes time a Roy knows exactly how to introduce young players.
I have a nagging feeling that Franca will be another Max Meyer, introduced with huge hype, but couldn’t deliver.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Oct 23 2.07pm
Originally posted by Painter Rak- Sakyi is 2 years older and more experienced than Franca, who is being built up as a wonder kid. People are expecting these youngsters to be prolific straight away, it isn’t going to happen, it takes time a Roy knows exactly how to introduce young players. I have a nagging feeling that Franca will be another Max Meyer, introduced with huge hype, but couldn’t deliver. I too share that anxiety but rather than anticipating his failure I'm just lightening my expectations for Franca to be some sort of hybrid of Ronaldinho, Kaka and R9. It'll be what it'll be and I'll spare judgment until then. The thought of equating any youngster to a winning lottery ticket is prominent amongst fans and I've always had a problem with this. Very, very few top professionals have burst onto the scene and set it alight immediately. I'm more inclined toward the approach/attitude you've articulated for youngsters Painter, and see us as fans and a club adopt that approach, as opposed to billing them as 'the next x' immediately only to shoot them down if they fall short of this. I recently discovered Johnny Williams is only 30 which shocked me and goes to show that I heard more hype for him, and for longer, than I think even his playing career has now been. He wasn't quite Iniesta and wasn't ever going to be. Let JRS improve until such a point his finished article isn't enough or his progress too slow for us to accommodate it. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Oct 23 2.07pm

Originally posted by Painter

Rak- Sakyi is 2 years older and more experienced than Franca, who is being built up as a wonder kid. People are expecting these youngsters to be prolific straight away, it isn’t going to happen, it takes time a Roy knows exactly how to introduce young players.
I have a nagging feeling that Franca will be another Max Meyer, introduced with huge hype, but couldn’t deliver.

I too share that anxiety but rather than anticipating his failure I'm just lightening my expectations for Franca to be some sort of hybrid of Ronaldinho, Kaka and R9. It'll be what it'll be and I'll spare judgment until then.

The thought of equating any youngster to a winning lottery ticket is prominent amongst fans and I've always had a problem with this. Very, very few top professionals have burst onto the scene and set it alight immediately. I'm more inclined toward the approach/attitude you've articulated for youngsters Painter, and see us as fans and a club adopt that approach, as opposed to billing them as 'the next x' immediately only to shoot them down if they fall short of this.

I recently discovered Johnny Williams is only 30 which shocked me and goes to show that I heard more hype for him, and for longer, than I think even his playing career has now been. He wasn't quite Iniesta and wasn't ever going to be. Let JRS improve until such a point his finished article isn't enough or his progress too slow for us to accommodate it.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Oct 23 3.09pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I too share that anxiety but rather than anticipating his failure I'm just lightening my expectations for Franca to be some sort of hybrid of Ronaldinho, Kaka and R9. It'll be what it'll be and I'll spare judgment until then. The thought of equating any youngster to a winning lottery ticket is prominent amongst fans and I've always had a problem with this. Very, very few top professionals have burst onto the scene and set it alight immediately. I'm more inclined toward the approach/attitude you've articulated for youngsters Painter, and see us as fans and a club adopt that approach, as opposed to billing them as 'the next x' immediately only to shoot them down if they fall short of this. I recently discovered Johnny Williams is only 30 which shocked me and goes to show that I heard more hype for him, and for longer, than I think even his playing career has now been. He wasn't quite Iniesta and wasn't ever going to be. Let JRS improve until such a point his finished article isn't enough or his progress too slow for us to accommodate it. At least players like Campana and Williams went on to have decent enough careers. Williams was a Wales regular. We don't know about Rak-Sakyi or Franca yet. I should look up what happened to that lazy idiot Meyer. I'm thinking Belgian league two or three. Read a piece on Sorloth the other day. A half decent striker now apparently. Funny how these things happen. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Oct 23 3.09pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

At least players like Campana and Williams went on to have decent enough careers. Williams was a Wales regular. We don't know about Rak-Sakyi or Franca yet. I should look up what happened to that lazy idiot Meyer. I'm thinking Belgian league two or three. Read a piece on Sorloth the other day. A half decent striker now apparently. Funny how these things happen.

Red and Blue Army!

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palace99 New Mills 09 Oct 23 4.38pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC At least players like Campana and Williams went on to have decent enough careers. Williams was a Wales regular. We don't know about Rak-Sakyi or Franca yet. I should look up what happened to that lazy idiot Meyer. I'm thinking Belgian league two or three. Read a piece on Sorloth the other day. A half decent striker now apparently. Funny how these things happen. Whilst Jonny Williams' career has been severely limited by injuries, it is surely a stretch to say he has had a decent career after leaving us. After leaving for Charlton (on a free) he played 2 of his 3 seasons in div 1 and after a brief spell in the championship with Cardiff, where he was released, he has played the last 3 seasons in div 2. I have watched his progress over the last 5 or 6 seasons and he rarely plays a full 90 minutes. Although he still gets in the Wales squads, most of his appearances seem to be off the bench.
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New Mills 09 Oct 23 4.38pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

At least players like Campana and Williams went on to have decent enough careers. Williams was a Wales regular. We don't know about Rak-Sakyi or Franca yet. I should look up what happened to that lazy idiot Meyer. I'm thinking Belgian league two or three. Read a piece on Sorloth the other day. A half decent striker now apparently. Funny how these things happen.

Whilst Jonny Williams' career has been severely limited by injuries, it is surely a stretch to say he has had a decent career after leaving us.
After leaving for Charlton (on a free) he played 2 of his 3 seasons in div 1 and after a brief spell in the championship with Cardiff, where he was released, he has played the last 3 seasons in div 2.
I have watched his progress over the last 5 or 6 seasons and he rarely plays a full 90 minutes.
Although he still gets in the Wales squads, most of his appearances seem to be off the bench.

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viveasheagle perth 10 Oct 23 4.39am
My thoughts were the experience of Ayew, Hughes, Guehi and Anderson helped get us the point. We will hopefully in due course be able to bring in Henderson (if selected) Ward, Doucoure, Lerma, Eze, Olise, Schlupp and Franca (if selected) Our bench will then include players like Hughes, Clyne, Richards, Rak Saki as well as Riedwald (who will surely come on for the run out) and we are going to be very competitive. Feel the Newcastle and Spurs games though are going to come at a bad time for us with our injury crisis and they both been teams in good form. Edited by viveasheagle (10 Oct 2023 4.53am)
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perth 10 Oct 23 4.39am

My thoughts were the experience of Ayew, Hughes, Guehi and Anderson helped get us the point. We will hopefully in due course be able to bring in Henderson (if selected) Ward, Doucoure, Lerma, Eze, Olise, Schlupp and Franca (if selected) Our bench will then include players like Hughes, Clyne, Richards, Rak Saki as well as Riedwald (who will surely come on for the run out) and we are going to be very competitive.
Feel the Newcastle and Spurs games though are going to come at a bad time for us with our injury crisis and they both been teams in good form.

Edited by viveasheagle (10 Oct 2023 4.53am)

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sprites Auckland 10 Oct 23 4.47am
Originally posted by TrickyboyVn He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there. Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ?? We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player. Good see Hughesy getting run of games. But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad. COYP Eww god no.
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Auckland 10 Oct 23 4.47am

Originally posted by TrickyboyVn

He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there.

Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ??

We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse

Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player.

Good see Hughesy getting run of games.

But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad.

COYP

Eww god no.

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Dubai Eagle 10 Oct 23 6.15am
Umm Ward Prowse has proven to be a bit of an inspiration for Wet Spam, I know we used to be frustrated with him because he was always winding Wilf Up but he can still contribute. Originally posted by sprites Eww god no.
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Dubai Eagle

10 Oct 23 6.15am

Umm Ward Prowse has proven to be a bit of an inspiration for Wet Spam, I know we used to be frustrated with him because he was always winding Wilf Up but he can still contribute.

Originally posted by sprites

Eww god no.

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taylors lovechild 10 Oct 23 6.59am
Originally posted by Painter Rak- Sakyi is 2 years older and more experienced than Franca, who is being built up as a wonder kid. People are expecting these youngsters to be prolific straight away, it isn’t going to happen, it takes time a Roy knows exactly how to introduce young players. I have a nagging feeling that Franca will be another Max Meyer, introduced with huge hype, but couldn’t deliver. I have the opposite feeling to you and have a feeling he is going to shine given time. Some players seem to have this calm assurance about them which I get off Franca, plus if you watch his reels he seems adept at what we are good at which is counter-attacking at speed with strength and skill. Hodgson was also unusually candid (for him) after watching him in training in saying the lad clearly has talent. The fact is we aren't going to know until he gets on the pitch and with our current injury crisis that might be sooner rather than later.
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Originally posted by Painter

I have the opposite feeling to you and have a feeling he is going to shine given time. Some players seem to have this calm assurance about them which I get off Franca, plus if you watch his reels he seems adept at what we are good at which is counter-attacking at speed with strength and skill. Hodgson was also unusually candid (for him) after watching him in training in saying the lad clearly has talent.

The fact is we aren't going to know until he gets on the pitch and with our current injury crisis that might be sooner rather than later.

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YT Oxford 10 Oct 23 7.33am
Originally posted by TrickyboyVn He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there. Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ?? We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player. Good see Hughesy getting run of games. But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad. COYP I think that's the Dutch version of the stuff you pour in when your car radiator leaks and which, perhaps appropriately in the context, never works very well. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 10 Oct 23 7.33am

Originally posted by TrickyboyVn

He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there.

Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ??

We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse

Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player.

Good see Hughesy getting run of games.

But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad.

COYP

I think that's the Dutch version of the stuff you pour in when your car radiator leaks and which, perhaps appropriately in the context, never works very well.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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mtp1958 Oswestry 10 Oct 23 7.40am
Originally posted by TrickyboyVn He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there. Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ?? We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player. Good see Hughesy getting run of games. But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad. COYP Agree but spam had something we didnt , European football , so such is , but Lerma is just as good sadly injured at the moment
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Oswestry 10 Oct 23 7.40am

Originally posted by TrickyboyVn

He's one of our better players tbh and love having him there.

Why on earth we paid 20m for back up (whose now injured) ??

We could have got a good midfield creative for that (almost) - should have gone for Ward-Prowse

Reideweld (know I've spelt that wrong) is so off the pace and never a PL player.

Good see Hughesy getting run of games.

But as one poster says 12 points from 8 games is admirable considering state of squad.

COYP

Agree but spam had something we didnt , European football , so such is , but Lerma is just as good sadly injured at the moment

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