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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 06 Sep 23 11.34am | |
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Just confirmation here, though we probably could have guessed this, that there is a new release clause in his contract which becomes active next summer. Doesn't say how much it is but you'd hope £70m+. I think we can all expect him to probably move on then which is fine, I just hope the release clause stipulates that it has to be before a certain date so we have time to reinvest any funds.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Sep 23 11.43am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
Just confirmation here, though we probably could have guessed this, that there is a new release clause in his contract which becomes active next summer. Doesn't say how much it is but you'd hope £70m+. I think we can all expect him to probably move on then which is fine, I just hope the release clause stipulates that it has to be before a certain date so we have time to reinvest any funds. Thanks Canterbury. I still feel resigned to the fact that we won't be hanging on to this team forever. That will, for me anyway, reflect some success however. What I am hopeful for, is that this represents a step up for us as a club beyond merely surviving relegation each year. Not a huge step, but a necessary and positive one. What is important going forward is that we continue in the same vain. The summer transfer window was hardly representative of all our wildest dreams however even the likes of Henderson and Franca do represent we are trying to bring in young, exciting talent to hopefully bring success for us albeit before they may eventually leave for the top. It looks as though we're planning for that inevitability but ensuring we receive the financial compensation to start the process again. COYP and Olise is ours for now.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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TheBigToePunt 06 Sep 23 12.15pm | |
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In the bigger scheme of things, Olise having a release clause makes little difference to us, so long as it is now set somewhere near, or above, market value. I'd imagine that's the tricky bit to get right, as you don't know how the market or the player will develop, and you can't set the figure at a silly amount, or the player won't sign the contract. We would probably have sold Olise in the next year or two anyway. We are signing good young players to sell at a profit, not to build a team around for the longer term. Eze doesn't have a release clause (that we know of), but he still has a price, as do they all. The only issue with a release clause is that the timing of the sale is out of our hands. Mind you, with player power and freedom of contract, it's not like we ever have full control over when someone leaves anyway.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 06 Sep 23 1.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Thanks Canterbury. I still feel resigned to the fact that we won't be hanging on to this team forever. That will, for me anyway, reflect some success however. What I am hopeful for, is that this represents a step up for us as a club beyond merely surviving relegation each year. Not a huge step, but a necessary and positive one. What is important going forward is that we continue in the same vain. The summer transfer window was hardly representative of all our wildest dreams however even the likes of Henderson and Franca do represent we are trying to bring in young, exciting talent to hopefully bring success for us albeit before they may eventually leave for the top. It looks as though we're planning for that inevitability but ensuring we receive the financial compensation to start the process again. COYP and Olise is ours for now.
Completely agree with this, was disappointed with the window but it's gone now and no point harping on about it (until Feb 1st). The most important thing is for the club to recognise that we are probably going to lose a few of these key players next summer, especially if Eze doesn't sign a new deal, and to get in front of the situation. They did brilliantly well recruiting Olise, Eze, Guehi and Andersen who must be worth £200m+ between them now. So use the majority of that money to replace them and strengthen other areas.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 06 Sep 23 1.30pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
In the bigger scheme of things, Olise having a release clause makes little difference to us, so long as it is now set somewhere near, or above, market value. I'd imagine that's the tricky bit to get right, as you don't know how the market or the player will develop, and you can't set the figure at a silly amount, or the player won't sign the contract. We would probably have sold Olise in the next year or two anyway. We are signing good young players to sell at a profit, not to build a team around for the longer term. Eze doesn't have a release clause (that we know of), but he still has a price, as do they all. The only issue with a release clause is that the timing of the sale is out of our hands. Mind you, with player power and freedom of contract, it's not like we ever have full control over when someone leaves anyway.
Although I suspect Rak-Sakyi is likely to be the contingency plan so if he develops well this season it may not be the end of the world regardless.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 06 Sep 23 2.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
Although I suspect Rak-Sakyi is likely to be the contingency plan so if he develops well this season it may not be the end of the world regardless. You'd hope that would be a fair compromise. You'd also hope that we looking for Eze/Olise replacements that we can get in, and bed in before their inevitable departure
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PatrickA London 06 Sep 23 3.43pm | |
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Is this what the future looks like?
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TheBigToePunt 06 Sep 23 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Is this what the future looks like? Way of the world, I'm afraid. American sports take steps to prevent boring monopolies by giving the lowest finishing team the first pick of the draft (i.e. summer recruitment), but we over here have never had that sort of check and balance system in over 150 years of football. It's an open market system and (without getting all Marxist about it) that generally means the rich will get richer and the pecking order is hard to disrupt. It wasn't quite as bad until freedom of contract. After that, players knew they held all the cards. It was nice to hear Parish send a message to the bigger clubs, but he knows that (whatever sweet talking he has pulled off with Olise, and Zaha before him) it's ultimately not in his gift to compel Eze, Geuhi, Docoure et el to sign new contracts. As and when they approach the final two years of their contracts, if those lads want to play for bigger clubs, and if the bigger clubs want them, that is where they will end up.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 06 Sep 23 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Is this what the future looks like? Its what the present looks like for every team that buys decent players. Its only that we have only started doing it that we are now starting to get some interest. Even the best teams in our league have players pining for Barca and Madrid. but its not a case of getting bent over, its about selling the right players for the right money at the right time. Eze being a perfect example, if we cant get him to sign a new contract, we have to sell him next summer. That alternative is you hold the guys to their contracts, get disinterested players, lose them for free and make ourselves a reputation for holding players hostage
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TheBigToePunt 06 Sep 23 5.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
Yeah, a cut-off date for the release clause would be best (and not that unusual I think, though I'm only basing that on media gossip about other players with such clauses). It's not something we have much experience of at the palace. I can't think of the last Palace player to have a (known, reported) release clause?
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taylors lovechild 06 Sep 23 5.09pm | |
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Olise must be glad he stayed put. Chelsea look a mess but the one position where I think they've looked ok is on the right wing with Sterling and Madueke. Maybe one day he could play more centrally, but I don't think so at the moment. Hopefully he'll be back for Villa and he can remind us of why we're so glad he stayed!
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PatrickA London 06 Sep 23 5.12pm | |
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…or you extend them as we did with Zaha, have just done with Olise and are reputedly trying to do with Eze.
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