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HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Dec 22 9.06am | |
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How do you calculate the age of consent for dogs.......asking for a friend. And may I tip my hat to the excellent and appropriate use of the word cavilling. Edited by HKOwen (28 Dec 2022 9.07am)
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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Mapletree Croydon 28 Dec 22 9.26am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I have not misunderstood you continually stating that the purpose of the repressive legislation is to stop intimidation – just some of your cavilling against people standing silently in a public street: - “Only those feeling intimidated can possibly know whether anyone doing anything is responsible for it. That the per-son standing silently doesn’t believe it intimidates is irrelevant.” Of course discussion of abortion itself has a place in this thread. The fact that there are legally provided clinics for abortions does not make it less grubby and morally questionable, in the same way that a legal dispensary for drug addicts does not make drug taking less reprehensible. By the way, some left-wing ‘ethicists’, such as Dr. Peter Singer, argue that foetuses are neither rational nor self-aware and as a result, the preference of a mother to have an abortion automatically takes precedence. He also has said that young children have no automatic right to life and that it could be wholly ethical to terminate the life of a living, dependent child if it were disabled or even if its existence jeopardised the life chances of the mother. Singer argues that newborns lack the essential characteristics of personhood, “rationality, autonomy, and self-consciousness" and therefore "killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living". (He has also argued that there is no moral reason why people should not have "mutually satisfying" sex with their pets.) Deflection, distraction, irrelevant to the topic. Focus on the point Religious extremist breaks the law to try to intimidate often highly distressed people from pursuing their legal rights The ethics of abortion have been debated thoroughly and are enshrined in legislation Do you break the law every time you think you may not wholly agree with it? If so it would be interesting to see your criminal and driving record.
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georgenorman 28 Dec 22 10.13am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Deflection, distraction, irrelevant to the topic. Focus on the point Religious extremist breaks the law to try to intimidate often highly distressed people from pursuing their legal rights The ethics of abortion have been debated thoroughly and are enshrined in legislation Do you break the law every time you think you may not wholly agree with it? If so it would be interesting to see your criminal and driving record. Deflection, distraction, irrelevant to the topic. I have been focused on the point that it is a bad, repressive law to arrest someone, religious or otherwise, for standing silently in a public street. I don’t have any criminal convictions but do have 3 points on my diving licence for my car apparently travelling at a speed of 54 on a dual carriageway that, for no apparent reason, had a 50 mph limit instead of the usual 70 (perhaps I was causing someone distress or intimidating them).
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Dec 22 1.01pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I have not misunderstood you continually stating that the purpose of the repressive legislation is to stop intimidation – just some of your cavilling against people standing silently in a public street: - “Only those feeling intimidated can possibly know whether anyone doing anything is responsible for it. That the person standing silently doesn’t believe it intimidates is irrelevant.” Of course discussion of abortion itself has a place in this thread. The fact that there are legally provided clinics for abortions does not make it less grubby and morally questionable, in the same way that a legal dispensary for drug addicts does not make drug taking less reprehensible. By the way, some left-wing ‘ethicists’, such as Dr. Peter Singer, argue that foetuses are neither rational nor self-aware and as a result, the preference of a mother to have an abortion automatically takes precedence. He also has said that young children have no automatic right to life and that it could be wholly ethical to terminate the life of a living, dependent child if it were disabled or even if its existence jeopardised the life chances of the mother. Singer argues that newborns lack the essential characteristics of personhood, “rationality, autonomy, and self-consciousness" and therefore "killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living". (He has also argued that there is no moral reason why people should not have "mutually satisfying" sex with their pets.) Edited by georgenorman (28 Dec 2022 10.15am) As you have received an accurate and succinct reply to this there is not a lot to add. You seem determined to either divert the discussion or avoid the point.
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Teddy Eagle 28 Dec 22 1.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Deflection, distraction, irrelevant to the topic. Focus on the point Religious extremist breaks the law to try to intimidate often highly distressed people from pursuing their legal rights The ethics of abortion have been debated thoroughly and are enshrined in legislation Do you break the law every time you think you may not wholly agree with it? If so it would be interesting to see your criminal and driving record.
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georgenorman 28 Dec 22 1.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As you have received an accurate and succinct reply to this there is not a lot to add. You seem determined to either divert the discussion or avoid the point. Quite the opposite, it is you who wants to divert to avoid the reality of the repressive law and the increasingly morally dubious 'legal right' that it facilitates.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Dec 22 3.52pm | |
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another christian arrested for praying in the street
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chris123 hove actually 28 Dec 22 4.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Looks like these orders are issued in accordance with the Anti Social, Crime and Policing act 2014 and references acts that cause harassment, alarm or distress.
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Teddy Eagle 28 Dec 22 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Looks like these orders are issued in accordance with the Anti Social, Crime and Policing act 2014 and references acts that cause harassment, alarm or distress. Yes but what about a lady praying constitutes harassment or causes alarm or distress?
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Dec 22 5.29pm | |
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This was a year or so ago and I think he sued and won 2.5 k damages for wrongful arrest.
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berlinpalace berlin 28 Dec 22 7.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
OK, slowly, and hopefully for the last time. The reason these restrictions are in place is because several christian fundamentalist groups, one of which this particular woman is a member of, have been running a campaign where they regularly turn up in large numbers to protest on the doorsteps of facilities offering abortion services. These protests have included a whole range of behaviours such as silent praying, waving placards with pictures of bloody foetuses, screaming abuse and other forms of intimidation.
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georgenorman 28 Dec 22 7.08pm | |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
OK, slowly, and hopefully for the last time. The reason these restrictions are in place is because several christian fundamentalist groups, one of which this particular woman is a member of, have been running a campaign where they regularly turn up in large numbers to protest on the doorsteps of facilities offering abortion services. These protests have included a whole range of behaviours such as silent praying, waving placards with pictures of bloody foetuses, screaming abuse and other forms of intimidation. Says it all really, you are arrested for doing nothing.
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