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Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Oct 22 9.44pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Right now it’s TW6.

Tomorrow is yet to be decided. We may be heading home.

Take a trip to east London and have a wander around. It would give your observations on London life a touch more credence.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Oct 22 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As there are some things that even I draw the line at, I am sorry to advise you I have no direct experience.

Perhaps you can go one better than me?

Seeing as you speak out of it so often I'm surprised you're not as eager to get into them.

Whatever.

 


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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 03 Oct 22 2.20am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

I have no problem with trans gender people. I had a very good friend in Catford who was trans female to male. All the ops (mastectomy, hysterectomy, etc) and hormone replacement, and even had a phallus constructed from excess fat from 'his' thighs. 'He' always used the mens toilets when in a pub or restaurant or anywhere and never made a fuss about it, even though he needed to sit to pee. And most of you know what the gents dumper is usually like. He died in his sleep at the age of 47. From "natural causes" as far as I can find out.

However, he would be horrified at the amount of publicity bestowed upon the trans agenda, as he thought that his genes were messed up somehow, and that would reflect on his parents and grandparents, who all took his transition badly. In short, he thought he was a freak of nature, and wished the same journey upon nobody.

I think all the ops and hormones shortened his life drastically, although I have no reason to say that. Except that he was rarely ill, quite fit and healthy, and didn't die from a known cause.

There is no research into the long term effects of hormone blocking.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 22 6.29am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Take a trip to east London and have a wander around. It would give your observations on London life a touch more credence.

I don’t make observations on London life. I have no current experience. I have never commented on the Mayor for instance. My comments are about life in general.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 22 6.46am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Seeing as you speak out of it so often I'm surprised you're not as eager to get into them.

Whatever.

As this is not actually a subject I pay special attention to I have no idea why you think that.

All I’ve been doing is suggesting new diversions for you that might widen your horizons. Nothing about me!

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Oct 22 7.45am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don’t make observations on London life. I have no current experience. I have never commented on the Mayor for instance. My comments are about life in general.

And others' comments are based on many years personal experience. Doesn't that make them more valid?

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Oct 22 7.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I have no problem with trans gender people. I had a very good friend in Catford who was trans female to male. All the ops (mastectomy, hysterectomy, etc) and hormone replacement, and even had a phallus constructed from excess fat from 'his' thighs. 'He' always used the mens toilets when in a pub or restaurant or anywhere and never made a fuss about it, even though he needed to sit to pee. And most of you know what the gents dumper is usually like. He died in his sleep at the age of 47. From "natural causes" as far as I can find out.

However, he would be horrified at the amount of publicity bestowed upon the trans agenda, as he thought that his genes were messed up somehow, and that would reflect on his parents and grandparents, who all took his transition badly. In short, he thought he was a freak of nature, and wished the same journey upon nobody.

I think all the ops and hormones shortened his life drastically, although I have no reason to say that. Except that he was rarely ill, quite fit and healthy, and didn't die from a known cause.

There is no research into the long term effects of hormone blocking.



Sorry to hear about your friend.

There is surprisingly little medical research on a lot of aspect that impact the Trans community, suicides rates for one and how successful the process has been e.g. do they regret it.

Mainly this is because researchers are scared because of the shameful bullying and threats and lack of support from their own bosses when it happens, so they leave well along.

 


One more point

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Oct 22 9.24am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I have no problem with trans gender people. I had a very good friend in Catford who was trans female to male. All the ops (mastectomy, hysterectomy, etc) and hormone replacement, and even had a phallus constructed from excess fat from 'his' thighs. 'He' always used the mens toilets when in a pub or restaurant or anywhere and never made a fuss about it, even though he needed to sit to pee. And most of you know what the gents dumper is usually like. He died in his sleep at the age of 47. From "natural causes" as far as I can find out.

However, he would be horrified at the amount of publicity bestowed upon the trans agenda, as he thought that his genes were messed up somehow, and that would reflect on his parents and grandparents, who all took his transition badly. In short, he thought he was a freak of nature, and wished the same journey upon nobody.

I think all the ops and hormones shortened his life drastically, although I have no reason to say that. Except that he was rarely ill, quite fit and healthy, and didn't die from a known cause.

There is no research into the long term effects of hormone blocking.

RIP for your friend Tim, that's not a happy story.

Interestingly enough, whilst I continue to vehemently argue against it, I am not adverse to considering examples such as the one you have described to have some credence.

What I do object to however, is when something which may seem like a '1 in x amount' absolute rarity suddenly becomes some sort of mainstream movement and the efforts to understand it become obfuscated by political dogma promulgated by failures who want things such as gender neutral changing rooms and toilets just so they can alter the world ever so slightly to justify their inadequacy. What's even more shocking is not just the imposition of this bonkers ideology upon adults but children too.

You have presented your friend as somebody who just wanted to gain an understanding or solution to their questions/problems etc. without any other motivation. Anybody in that cart I would only wish the best for them and of course support. I really do think the somewhat pseudoscience behind this is terrifying too, it is to a certain extent experimental and Mengele-esque. Having spent much of my childhood on Stanstead Road (Forest Hill end) and playing home matches at the Power League on Sunday, I would however still be inclined to think living in Catford can be more detrimental to both physical and mental wellbeing.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Beastie Flag 03 Oct 22 9.50am Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Both of my eldest daughters children are in the process. One, one way, the other the reverse way. They are at different stages and one is taking it slower than the other. Both are receiving support, as is the family who are staying together over it all.

By any chance, is their cat vegan as well?

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 Oct 22 10.49am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

This is just one of many sites giving roughly the same figures. I just googled trans suicide rates. If the families of people wanting this procedure haven’t done their due diligence and tried to dissuade the individual in any capacity then get a mirror !!!

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 22 6.59pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And others' comments are based on many years personal experience. Doesn't that make them more valid?

Of course, which is why I don't get involved. Anything I say is about issues which could apply anywhere.

If someone wants to criticise the Mayor's response to knife crime, for instance, then I don't comment. If they criticise him because of his faith, I might.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 22 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Beastie

By any chance, is their cat vegan as well?

They don't have one, and they lost their dog to cancer three months ago, and he certainly wasn't. Why do you ask?

 


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