I missed the programme I'm afraid. I have to say that my attitude to paedophiles has never changed. Where I have noticed a change however is that you can't even go near anyone these days for fear of reprisals and I'm not talking about grabbing women's backsides, but more innocent than that. Some people are naturally touchy feely but that has all had to stop. For better or for worse, I'm not sure, I feel our society has become a bit sterile and stand offish.

I will watch the programme with interest if I can find it and see if it addresses any of this.

I don't disagree with any of that, welcome your response and look forward to your appraisal. I'll keep my own to myself until you have seen it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

So you deny the existence of these?

See, you are in a better mood already.

You might have noticed that our adversarial politicians, Secret Service and other self-interested groups spend a lot of time trying to hide the truth.

It's hardly a revelation.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Apr 2022 3.36pm)

I’ve just watched it and to be honest was a bit disappointed. I cannot believe Bill Cotton and Michael Grade knew nothing about the actions of these people who were after all 4 of the most famous stars on tv at the time and two of them in particular top of the tree. There must have been loads of people who knew what was going on but were probably afraid about losing their jobs or in higher management, their ratings.

I had forgotten that the BBC refused to look into Saville’s abuse and that it took a Man Alive ITV programme to bring it to light. I find this rather damning of the BBC as was the shelving of a Newsnight file by a BBC editor.

The idea of famous people thinking they can do whatever they want is of course not new and will probably never change and you only have to look at recent cases with footballers who have been arrested for similar crimes to confirm. There is of course the big question which is how much of this still goes on without it ever coming to light?

I think the response of the public to the discovery of the actions of the disgraced 4 was pretty much normal and I suppose you could look at their fall from grace as an example of the population cancelling them. At the end of the day bad people are bad people and should be treated accordingly and I think the public reacted as expected.

If the programme concluded anything positive it is that the UK as a whole is now more receptive to the abuse claims made by victims which is a good thing.

The biggest disappointment for me of the documentary is that no one faces any significant criticism other than the abusers. They talk about there being a change in culture as a result of the ‘discoveries’, but jeez, this was serious stuff that had been largely swept under the carpet.

Was it this desire for reality and truth that lead you to pursue a long career in marketing?

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