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 Badger11  Beckenham 05 Jul 21 11.57am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
While I agree with you that eastern Europeans are probably a small net benefit to northern European economies the reality persists that this nation does not exist to serve the Poles or other EE.....or indeed the preference for the better off to have cheaper labour. Exactly when I suggested that British people should do these jobs one poster complained how would I like to do those jobs. There is nothing wrong with ambition but if you are unemployed you may need to lower your sights until such time as your dream job arrives. Too many in this country think this work is beneath them and they have strange bedfellows in that many on the left and most of big business agree with them. There is nothing noble about importing cheap labour.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 05 Jul 21 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Looks like remain/leave will dominate for years to come. This was though a state bribe the sort decried by the tories since Thatcher, now they are desperate over a brexit disaster. Without it Nissan would have walked and they played an easy brexit hand. State intervention is sometimes necessary, to save steel for example which the govt are trying to protecting today. Increasingly socialist measures are becoming prevalent, and the furlough itself, re-nationalisation of failed privatisations,, transport corporation tax are left-wing policies, and of course the NHS who should be getting the all the credit for vaccines etc. not brexit, is state-run. Had the UK stayed though, this would have not happened. In addition it is being ignored by brexiteers that the UK has no control itself over battery production at Sunderland, it and electric cars are for the EU market. The cells produced in Sunderland will need to abide by EU legislation currently being drafted that will oblige companies to carry out everything from due diligence on mining raw materials used in batteries to following-through with detailed recycling targets for flat cells. Brussels new rules are to keep out asian battery imports mainly but applies to other non-eu mambers like the UK. Not a bad result for Sunderland though, but it would have been so much better if we had remained. The taxpayer will certainly be digging deep over this and similar 'investments' (bail-outs we used to call them.
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cryrst  The garden of England 05 Jul 21 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
In addition it is being ignored by brexiteers that the UK has no control itself over battery production at Sunderland, it and electric cars are for the EU market. The cells produced in Sunderland will need to abide by EU legislation currently being drafted that will oblige companies to carry out everything from due diligence on mining raw materials used in batteries to following-through with detailed recycling targets for flat cells. Brussels new rules are to keep out asian battery imports mainly but applies to other non-eu mambers like the UK. Not a bad result for Sunderland though, but it would have been so much better if we had remained. The taxpayer will certainly be digging deep over this and similar 'investments' (bail-outs we used to call them.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 05 Jul 21 1.03pm |
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Panorama looks worth a watch tonight, over 200 companies have located to the E.U, lots more apparently but they have traced 220 odd of those that got back to them, the rest were probably stuck in the removal van at Dover!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jul 21 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Unpaid unfortunately. Working for Danish and Icelandic teams Danish and Icelandic spider? He could get a job with Gareth as a spy, and time travel back 5 years for Roy to!
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jul 21 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Too many in this country think this work is beneath them and they have strange bedfellows in that many on the left and most of big business agree with them. There is nothing noble about importing cheap labour. Cogent points. In all the northern economies the state has first and foremost become about welfare...and that's independent of young or old....the state is seen as tax credit or dole payment for the young or the the NHS 'cradle to grave' and pension protector for the older (most now far outlive their contributions). All this money is mostly on the never never.....Of course generations raised like this are going to think that hard physical work is beneath them. This money tree reality of an MMT economy acts as a powerful attractant for immigrants who know that once they have the foot in the door they can benefit as well....if you don't mind the pun. But once inflation gets out of control, the interest rates will have to rise and debt repayment becomes impossible once that happens the spiral is unstoppable as borrowing will end...and ping goes the welfare state.....but personally I think we have another five years at least. I also do parties.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jul 21 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Panorama looks worth a watch tonight, over 200 companies have located to the E.U, lots more apparently but they have traced 220 odd of those that got back to them, the rest were probably stuck in the removal van at Dover! From the frying pan into the fire.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jul 21 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
From the frying pan into the fire. Take a look anyway, its a take on brexit 6 mths on, should be interesting , and not all about the 200 plus companies who have left gb.
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| Spiderman Horsham 05 Jul 21 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Danish and Icelandic spider? He could get a job with Gareth as a spy, and time travel back 5 years for Roy to! He has even grown a beard, taking the role seriously!
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jul 21 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Take a look anyway, its a take on brexit 6 mths on, should be interesting , and not all about the 200 plus companies who have left gb. I'm really really busy building a patio and new fencing in the back garden. I only have time for pointless arguments on Hol.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 05 Jul 21 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm really really busy building a patio and new fencing in the back garden. I only have time for pointless arguments on Hol. Don’t forget, they can see quite deep under patios these days with modern detection equipment. Just saying.
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jeeagles  05 Jul 21 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Panorama looks worth a watch tonight, over 200 companies have located to the E.U, lots more apparently but they have traced 220 odd of those that got back to them, the rest were probably stuck in the removal van at Dover! There are 2.8 million companies in the UK
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