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 steeleye20  Croydon 06 Apr 21 12.56pm |
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Independence is not just about Scotland and NI with a dash of Wales. The Northern Independence party is not just a joke I think they will poll well. Can't see why Labour are persevering with Starmer, no ideas, no policies and really looks like Johnsons deputy. An opposition leader must oppose. Moderate labour PMs like Wilson and Blair were always all over the tories.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 06 Apr 21 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Independence is not just about Scotland and NI with a dash of Wales. The Northern Independence party is not just a joke I think they will poll well. Can't see why Labour are persevering with Starmer, no ideas, no policies and really looks like Johnsons deputy. An opposition leader must oppose. Moderate labour PMs like Wilson and Blair were always all over the tories.
Labour are moving further and further away from its roots. Working class people just don't see any relevance to a London centric party obsessed with identity politics and the alphabet soup. Politicians always obsess over the centre ground because they feel that is where the votes are. Yet there is a gaping whole for working class voters who no longer vote Labour and would not dream of voting Tory. I thought for a moment that the Brexit Party might feel that gap but apparently not. The Lib Dems are just drifting between Labour and the Greens and have no real identity or appeal to Northern voters. Working class people tend to be conservative (small c) and patriotic in their outlook. Their votes are up for grabs or they may just sit at home next time.
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Teddy Eagle  06 Apr 21 2.12pm |
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Decolonise maths? Seeing how some of the school leavers I worked with didn’t know their times tables learning those would’ve been a better idea.
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| Matov 06 Apr 21 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The Northern Independence party is not just a joke I think they will poll well.
Heard a couple of interviews with them. Interesting concept. Not sure who they will appeal to in terms of actual politics outside of a few progressive types so more a case of the usual Left-wing 'splitters' but potentially the reason why Labour could lose this seat (I think it will be much closer than the most recent polling suggests).
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 06 Apr 21 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Decolonise maths? Seeing how some of the school leavers I worked with didn’t know their times tables learning those would’ve been a better idea. How many woke does it take to change a light bulb? 6 1 to change it and the other 5 to feel guilty about their white privilege.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 19 Apr 21 11.04pm |
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here are some feminist Lefties making a t1t out of themselves
Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford |
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Apr 21 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Independence is not just about Scotland and NI with a dash of Wales. The Northern Independence party is not just a joke I think they will poll well. Can't see why Labour are persevering with Starmer, no ideas, no policies and really looks like Johnsons deputy. An opposition leader must oppose. Moderate labour PMs like Wilson and Blair were always all over the tories.
They were not opposing in a major crisis. He must bide his time and watch a large Tory majority muck it up while sh1tting all over the Red Wall who voted them in.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Apr 21 9.19am |
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So if a gammon says he likes having sex with multiple partners (not at the same time) he is branded a dirty old man. #MeToo Apparently though if you are a the daughter of a lefty celebrity couple you are called polyamorous and presumably you are celebrated. #DoubleStandards Edited by Badger11 (29 Apr 2021 9.22am)
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| silvertop Portishead 29 Apr 21 10.57am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Labour are moving further and further away from its roots. Working class people just don't see any relevance to a London centric party obsessed with identity politics and the alphabet soup. Politicians always obsess over the centre ground because they feel that is where the votes are. Yet there is a gaping whole for working class voters who no longer vote Labour and would not dream of voting Tory. I thought for a moment that the Brexit Party might feel that gap but apparently not. The Lib Dems are just drifting between Labour and the Greens and have no real identity or appeal to Northern voters. Working class people tend to be conservative (small c) and patriotic in their outlook. Their votes are up for grabs or they may just sit at home next time. Yup, good post. Labour have always had the youth in their pocket. trouble is, they are unreliable and have a poor propensity to turn up when it matters. The urban populations are also pretty much on their side; but they are alienating the older among them (who do vote) for the very reasons you give. And there is then the Great North, as you say. Willing voters desperately seeking a flag to follow. Brexit galvanized the North who flocked to the Tories as they were the only "proper" party who promised to deliver. Obviously, the same cannot happen in 2024. The Tories will offer pre-election bribes and the canny North will say: nice, but why didn't you offer this when we first voted for you? But will Labour be there to recover those who seriously fell out with them if they continue to represent a progressive urban elite that most of the nation hates? Like you, I predict a very low turnout up North unless something fundamental changes between now and then.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Apr 21 11.16am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
here are some feminist Lefties making a t1t out of themselves That was a great laugh. Trust Limerick for something like that. Better than Netflix.
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| Matov 01 May 21 8.11am |
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Happy Labour Day to you Lefties! Thanks for the Lolz.
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Attachment: | Badger11 Beckenham 01 May 21 8.20am |
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Maybe they should rename it Happy Latte Day.
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