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BlueJay Flag UK 24 Oct 20 4.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are making me laugh.

I'm very happy for people to help the feckless if that makes them feel better. Some people find themselves in dire straits for no fault of their own and that is unfortunate.
I certainly won't spend my short life constantly worrying about complete strangers and no ghosts of Christmas will change that. If I do help people out who cross my path, I won't be crowing about it on here.

Virtue signalling makes me puke.

Yes, that is unfortunate and maybe helping such people isn't the worst idea. The nay saying of both potential government help and berating of someone who brought together food and funds to the tune of £20 million to help kids, keeps those stomachs empty.

If you think your life is so short, then you certainly have been wasting plenty of it moaning about people you neither know nor like on here. So you're right, you don't waste your life constantly worrying about people, you waste it attacking them. And the bar for doing so is very, very low (those raising money to feed hungry kids).


 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 24 Oct 20 4.25pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are making me laugh.

I'm very happy for people to help the feckless if that makes them feel better. Some people find themselves in dire straits for no fault of their own and that is unfortunate.
I certainly won't spend my short life constantly worrying about complete strangers and no ghosts of Christmas will change that. If I do help people out who cross my path, I won't be crowing about it on here.

Virtue signalling makes me puke.

How can children be feckless?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Oct 20 5.40pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Again you say it, you have no sympathy for those who don't help themselves. You are talking about small children for whom you have no sympathy, funnily enough not in a position to help themselves.

If Britain is so wealthy why are children in Britain going hungry? Perhaps because many people take the same view as you, feck em they don't deserve helping.

I have presumed nothing and I know nothing of your circumstances since we used to play together in the Rec.

What I have commented upon are your posts, bleak as Oldham on a Tuesday night. You show no love and no empathy on these boards, I do hope you show it elsewhere but you have never indicated that you do.

What complete stupidity to think that I don't have sympathy for starving children.

I certainly have a lot more symathy for them than I do for selectively charitable,sanctimonious, virtue signalling liars with delusions of moral superiority.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2020 5.41pm)

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 24 Oct 20 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What complete stupidity to think that I don't have sympathy for starving children.

I certainly have a lot more symathy for them than I do for selectively charitable,sanctimonious, virtue signalling liars with delusions of moral superiority.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2020 5.41pm)

Well that's a start then.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Oct 20 6.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

7% of people in the UK are in deep poverty. 4.5m including 1.3m children. 3.9m children live in poverty and a total of 14.4m people,10.7m of whom are white. So not some kind of imported underclass. But half of those live in a family with someone that is disabled.

The Covid 19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on those people already in poverty compared to everyone else.

Historically 72,000 children a year are looked after by local authorities.

I blame the children who chose to be born into a family where someone then went on to become disabled

I also blame footballers for not feeding 1.3million children, what were they thinking?

All figures from the Social Metrics Commission.


Edited by Mapletree (24 Oct 2020 9.53am)

What is poverty in 2020 Britain. Without links to the net if possible. I dont think the calc has changed in years but benefits and tax avoidance has increased greatly. If this was about need then yes.
It isnt fully about that it is about want and entitlement for many. Means test it with bank accounts and savings. Then see how badly many want this 15 quid a week.

 

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manoftaste Flag Hastings 24 Oct 20 6.47pm Send a Private Message to manoftaste Add manoftaste as a friend

A few reflections on this issue:
(1) It is a fundamental responsibility of any parent to feed their children.
(2) Nobody in this country is so poor that they cant afford to give their kids beans on toast for lunch (back in the thirties my grandfather was unemployed, the family was seriously poor, but my Nan still fed her kids).
(3) The more the government takes responsibility for us, the less likely we are to take responsibility for ourselves and our dependents.
(4) The government is spending eye-watering amounts of money, the cost of which is going to blight the lives of younger generations for decades to come.
(5) Whenever government starts funding some new area of provision, it is almost impossible ever to claw it back again. That's why state spending just gets bigger and bigger.
It's the easiest thing in the world to say government should spend more to solve this or that problem. No politician ever lost votes by promising more hand-outs. The really brave and grown-up thing is to recognise that we can't and shouldn't expect government to solve every problem in our lives.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 24 Oct 20 7.10pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by manoftaste

A few reflections on this issue:
(1) It is a fundamental responsibility of any parent to feed their children.
(2) Nobody in this country is so poor that they cant afford to give their kids beans on toast for lunch (back in the thirties my grandfather was unemployed, the family was seriously poor, but my Nan still fed her kids).
(3) The more the government takes responsibility for us, the less likely we are to take responsibility for ourselves and our dependents.
(4) The government is spending eye-watering amounts of money, the cost of which is going to blight the lives of younger generations for decades to come.
(5) Whenever government starts funding some new area of provision, it is almost impossible ever to claw it back again. That's why state spending just gets bigger and bigger.
It's the easiest thing in the world to say government should spend more to solve this or that problem. No politician ever lost votes by promising more hand-outs. The really brave and grown-up thing is to recognise that we can't and shouldn't expect government to solve every problem in our lives.

The number of children admitted to hospital with malnutrition was almost 2,500 in the first six months of 2020, double the number over the same period last year

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Oct 20 7.58pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What complete stupidity to think that I don't have sympathy for starving children.

I certainly have a lot more sympathy for them than I do for selectively charitable,sanctimonious, virtue signalling liars with delusions of moral superiority.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 24 Oct 20 8.33pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

The number of children admitted to hospital with malnutrition was almost 2,500 in the first six months of 2020, double the number over the same period last year

And you and Marcus Rashford think it's the governments fault. Nothing to do with unfit parents, who won't pass on the benefits to their children anyway. Not one caring parent would allow their child to become malnourished. These numbers you produce are very likely correct, but the chidrens parents are more likely to sell on the vouchers at half price so they can have a packet of fags or a drink. Or maybe drugs even...?

The solution isn't to throw more money at it. The problem is far deeper than that. You seem to think every problem is a simple fix for the government if they spend more.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Oct 20 8.36pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

The number of children admitted to hospital with malnutrition was almost 2,500 in the first six months of 2020, double the number over the same period last year

And that's the fault of whom then as I'm sure they didn't go from school to the hospital. That is such a low blow to try to sway opinion. The parents or responsible adult looking after them will be to blame. Not the fact a £15 voucher wasnt available. You are slowly showing why the left are rubbish and virtue signalling from morning to night.

Edited by cryrst (24 Oct 2020 8.40pm)

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Oct 20 8.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

And you and Marcus Rashford think it's the governments fault. Nothing to do with unfit parents, who won't pass on the benefits to their children anyway. Not one caring parent would allow their child to become malnourished. These numbers you produce are very likely correct, but the chidrens parents are more likely to sell on the vouchers at half price so they can have a packet of fags or a drink. Or maybe drugs even...?

The solution isn't to throw more money at it. The problem is far deeper than that. You seem to think every problem is a simple fix for the government if they spend more.

Spot on. Money solves all problems if your labour.
That's why we had 10 years of austerity and STILL the leftys dont get it. You have to cut your cloth and being every kids guardian day to day isnt part of the cloth I'm afraid. Some yes but all nah!

 

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becky Flag over the moon 24 Oct 20 9.14pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

The number of children admitted to hospital with malnutrition was almost 2,500 in the first six months of 2020, double the number over the same period last year

Malnutrition doesn't necessarily mean that the children were starving - it could as easily be caused by being fed too much unhealthy junk.

 


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