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est1905 16 Apr 20 6.07pm
Originally posted by scuffy Wow, mass generalization there...why do you even bother watching or supporting them if you think so little of them? Explain why we should think highly of them. Its a team game and every player is a small part of the whole. I don't know any football supporter that supports only a player or only a specific team but the club as a whole. If that were the case they would surely stop supporting them once all 11 had retired, transferred out to other clubs. Fans support the club and cheer for whoever happens to play for that club at the time. Its a bit daft to think that we are expected to hold any of the players up as an example of anything other than what they are. Overpaid and extremely fortunate to get so much for doing something that they not only enjoy but only have to work a couple of hours a day doing it.
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est1905

16 Apr 20 6.07pm

Originally posted by scuffy

Wow, mass generalization there...why do you even bother watching or supporting them if you think so little of them?

Explain why we should think highly of them.
Its a team game and every player is a small part of the whole.
I don't know any football supporter that supports only a player or only a specific team but the club as a whole.
If that were the case they would surely stop supporting them once all 11 had retired, transferred out to other clubs. Fans support the club and cheer for whoever happens to play for that club at the time.
Its a bit daft to think that we are expected to hold any of the players up as an example of anything other than what they are. Overpaid and extremely fortunate to get so much for doing something that they not only enjoy but only have to work a couple of hours a day doing it.

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Painter Croydon 16 Apr 20 7.51pm
Originally posted by Willo Apropos survival I won't be surprised one iota if some lower league clubs go to the wall.A couple of people who ae prominent at their clubs believe as many as 10 could fold. I would be surprised if it is only 10 that go. The prospect of games starting again is doubtful in the foreseeable future. With Lockdown extended by another 3 weeks at least, the players would need 3-4 weeks to get back to match fitness, that takes us to June. Lower league clubs were struggling before, now with no revenue coming in for months. The economy is shot, banks aren't going bail them out.
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Croydon 16 Apr 20 7.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

Apropos survival I won't be surprised one iota if some lower league clubs go to the wall.A couple of people who ae prominent at their clubs believe as many as 10 could fold.

I would be surprised if it is only 10 that go. The prospect of games starting again is doubtful in the foreseeable future. With Lockdown extended by another 3 weeks at least, the players would need 3-4 weeks to get back to match fitness, that takes us to June.
Lower league clubs were struggling before, now with no revenue coming in for months. The economy is shot, banks aren't going bail them out.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Apr 20 7.29pm
Arsenal players agree 12.5% pay cut [Link] Arsenal players set to agree pay cut with Champions League incentive Arsenal players are set to be the first in the Premier League to agree to a pay cut after being offered Champions League qualification incentives. The Gunners players will take a 12.5% wage cut but be reimbursed if they qualify for next season's Champions League or the 2021-22 competition. They will get a £100,000 bonus for reaching next year's Champions League. They will each reportedly earn £500,000 for winning the 2021 Champions League or £100,000 for the Europa League. The Gunners were in ninth place in the Premier League when the season was stopped because of the coronavirus pandemic, eight points adrift of a Champions League place with 10 games remaining. On Wednesday, the Arsenal executive team agreed to waive more than a third of their salaries over the next 12 months. Private discussions have taken place with the players over the "potential financial challenges ahead", with negotiations on wage cuts taking place on a club-by-club basis. The decision came after league-wide talks aimed at a collective pay deal broke down without resolution. The Premier League proposed a 30% pay cut, but the Professional Footballers' Association said that would affect tax contributions to the NHS. Arsenal said in a statement earlier this week "our owners, Kroenke, Sports & Entertainment, are fully committed to supporting Arsenal through this challenging time". They confirmed their fans will receive credits or refunds if matches are played behind closed doors or cancelled. Season tickets and single match-day tickets at Arsenal are among the most expensive in the league, meaning the Gunners face paying back more than most other clubs. COYP
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Caterham 17 Apr 20 7.29pm

Arsenal players agree 12.5% pay cut

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Arsenal players set to agree pay cut with Champions League incentive

Arsenal players are set to be the first in the Premier League to agree to a pay cut after being offered Champions League qualification incentives.

The Gunners players will take a 12.5% wage cut but be reimbursed if they qualify for next season's Champions League or the 2021-22 competition.

They will get a £100,000 bonus for reaching next year's Champions League.

They will each reportedly earn £500,000 for winning the 2021 Champions League or £100,000 for the Europa League.

The Gunners were in ninth place in the Premier League when the season was stopped because of the coronavirus pandemic, eight points adrift of a Champions League place with 10 games remaining.

On Wednesday, the Arsenal executive team agreed to waive more than a third of their salaries over the next 12 months.

Private discussions have taken place with the players over the "potential financial challenges ahead", with negotiations on wage cuts taking place on a club-by-club basis.

The decision came after league-wide talks aimed at a collective pay deal broke down without resolution.

The Premier League proposed a 30% pay cut, but the Professional Footballers' Association said that would affect tax contributions to the NHS.

Arsenal said in a statement earlier this week "our owners, Kroenke, Sports & Entertainment, are fully committed to supporting Arsenal through this challenging time".

They confirmed their fans will receive credits or refunds if matches are played behind closed doors or cancelled.

Season tickets and single match-day tickets at Arsenal are among the most expensive in the league, meaning the Gunners face paying back more than most other clubs.

COYP

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Stirlingsays 17 Apr 20 7.36pm
I'm getting the feeling that the Premiership players aren't really understanding the financial implications. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Apr 20 7.36pm

I'm getting the feeling that the Premiership players aren't really understanding the financial implications.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Apr 20 7.44pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm getting the feeling that the Premiership players aren't really understanding the financial implications. Yep. The way they see it is, ‘Our club/company’s owner is Personally much richer than us so he/they can cover our pay.’ COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 17 Apr 20 7.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm getting the feeling that the Premiership players aren't really understanding the financial implications.

Yep. The way they see it is, ‘Our club/company’s owner is Personally much richer than us so he/they can cover our pay.’

COYP

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Stirlingsays 17 Apr 20 8.14pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Yep. The way they see it is, ‘Our club/company’s owner is Personally much richer than us so he/they can cover our pay.’ Oh how they must be struggling with the prospect of a cut in pay. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

17 Apr 20 8.14pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yep. The way they see it is, ‘Our club/company’s owner is Personally much richer than us so he/they can cover our pay.’

Oh how they must be struggling with the prospect of a cut in pay.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 17 Apr 20 9.03pm
PL players shouldn't take a wage cut...however should all agree to give 50% to charity during these times. i was reading an article earlier this week about a PL footballer who has given 100% of his wages to charity for the last few years stating he is disgusted at what he gets paid...fair play to that guy tho i doubt we will ever know who he is. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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PL players shouldn't take a wage cut...however should all agree to give 50% to charity during these times.

i was reading an article earlier this week about a PL footballer who has given 100% of his wages to charity for the last few years stating he is disgusted at what he gets paid...fair play to that guy tho i doubt we will ever know who he is.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Teddy Eagle 17 Apr 20 9.37pm
[Link] Pay cut? We should have a whip round to help them out.
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Teddy Eagle

17 Apr 20 9.37pm

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Pay cut? We should have a whip round to help them out.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Apr 20 9.54am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle PL players shouldn't take a wage cut...however should all agree to give 50% to charity during these times. i was reading an article earlier this week about a PL footballer who has given 100% of his wages to charity for the last few years stating he is disgusted at what he gets paid...fair play to that guy tho i doubt we will ever know who he is. That doesn’t solve the problems the clubs have. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 18 Apr 20 9.54am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

PL players shouldn't take a wage cut...however should all agree to give 50% to charity during these times.

That doesn’t solve the problems the clubs have.

COYP

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scuffy orpington 18 Apr 20 4.02pm
I don’t idolize them either but I also don’t resort to the mass generalizations and stereotyping that’s prevalent on this thread. Originally posted by Rudi Hedman I support my local club. I don’t idolise players. Most of them would be off in an instant if more money was on offer anyway. Some of the old guard and Tomkins are different. The rest are mostly far removed from us.
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orpington 18 Apr 20 4.02pm

I don’t idolize them either but I also don’t resort to the mass generalizations and stereotyping that’s prevalent on this thread.

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I support my local club. I don’t idolise players. Most of them would be off in an instant if more money was on offer anyway. Some of the old guard and Tomkins are different. The rest are mostly far removed from us.

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scuffy orpington 18 Apr 20 4.04pm
How do you know the old guard and Tomkins are different? Do you know them or are you just spouting uninformed, ignorant crap yourself? Originally posted by Rudi Hedman I support my local club. I don’t idolise players. Most of them would be off in an instant if more money was on offer anyway. Some of the old guard and Tomkins are different. The rest are mostly far removed from us.
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orpington 18 Apr 20 4.04pm

How do you know the old guard and Tomkins are different? Do you know them or are you just spouting uninformed, ignorant crap yourself?

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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scuffy orpington 18 Apr 20 4.10pm
There’s just no logic to that argument. Why should footballers, in particular, donate 50 percent of their wages to charity? Are you suggesting other well paid people do the same or is this just targeted purely at footballers? Originally posted by braunstoneagle PL players shouldn't take a wage cut...however should all agree to give 50% to charity during these times. i was reading an article earlier this week about a PL footballer who has given 100% of his wages to charity for the last few years stating he is disgusted at what he gets paid...fair play to that guy tho i doubt we will ever know who he is.
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orpington 18 Apr 20 4.10pm

There’s just no logic to that argument. Why should footballers, in particular, donate 50 percent of their wages to charity? Are you suggesting other well paid people do the same or is this just targeted purely at footballers?

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

PL players shouldn't take a wage cut...however should all agree to give 50% to charity during these times.

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